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AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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The problem you have is that you believe you have real artificial inteligence been able to asses truth when given facts but all you have is next token prediction system that happens to be quite good in some tasks, like coding or summaries...

Now I'm seeing 10 days or less perhaps 90 days was wasted by people in just one day! Wow. I sure hope the AIs have it wrong. No one here has presented a higher truth than the AIs are using to calculate it so that is something that I feel needs to be publicly said.

Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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But see, when you tell me to do that, you're still assuming that both the starting point and the methodology are valid. I don't see any reason to assume that.

You were provided the name of the paper. You don't even need to read the paper to understand that the title is claiming the most important truth in life. That's a big claim and it is true. You have not presented a higher truth. All you are doing now is using life itself in contradiction to claim it is unsubstantiated, proving this truth is correct, which defeats your other claims and skepticism. If you or anyone else…

A paper does not make its content fact or proof of anything, literally at all. Since you don’t have a diploma, I’ll try to help you understand: scientific papers are the presentation of guesses and an attempt to DISPROVE a guess. Nothing more.

It does not make things fact, it doesn’t make them true, and random theories you come up with are not things serious people need to take seriously just because you put effort in. Effort is not a measure of correctness or value; if I fill in one hole with the dirt from another, I didn’t magically build a castle.

Just because AI makes your ideas “sound” smart, if you don’t understand said subject matter, you are fooled even more easily by said AI into thinking you have something meaningful. You don’t, I assure you, and I don’t mean that in a mean way. For comparison, you basically just suggested if I walk into a library, I can predict the future. I can’t, and neither can your AI.

Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were provided the name of the paper. You don't even need to read the paper to understand that the title is claiming the most important truth in life. That's a big claim and it is true. You have not presented a higher truth. All you are doing now is using life itself in contradiction to claim it is unsubstantiated, proving this truth is correct, which defeats your other claims and skepticism. If you or anyone else…

A paper does not make its content fact or proof of anything, literally at all. Since you don’t have a diploma, I’ll try to help you understand: scientific papers are the presentation of guesses and an attempt to DISPROVE a guess. Nothing more. It does not make things fact, it doesn’t make them true, and random theories you come up with are not things serious people need to take seriously just because you put effort i…

You using life to make that response proves that the paper is correct.

The paper is just a paper. It's what it's the paper says, the truth that it points to, that is the point.

You did not present a higher truth than the paper presents and instead used life in contradiction to prove that the papers claims are 100% correct. No one has ever legitimately refuted the truth that life is most important in life. Every claim to the contrary is evidence that it is correct

Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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You were provided the name of the paper. You don't even need to read the paper to understand that the title is claiming the most important truth in life. That's a big claim and it is true. You have not presented a higher truth. All you are doing now is using life itself in contradiction to claim it is unsubstantiated, proving this truth is correct, which defeats your other claims and skepticism. If you or anyone else…

A paper does not make its content fact or proof of anything, literally at all. Since you don’t have a diploma, I’ll try to help you understand: scientific papers are the presentation of guesses and an attempt to DISPROVE a guess. Nothing more. It does not make things fact, it doesn’t make them true, and random theories you come up with are not things serious people need to take seriously just because you put effort i…

You were presented a question. The question was based on the top AIs on the planet using the highest truth that all life shares in common to make their calculation.

The time was taken to clarify to you that the truth being presented was the very truth of the importance of life itself, that life is most important.

For some ridiculous reason you decided to take the side of Trump, Biden, Musk, Obama, Bezos, Gates and every person who has committed mass murder in history... You decided to place your beliefs above the very truth of the importance of life itself that we all share in common.

For some strange reason you think it's okay to troll an important question with nonsense and gamble all life on earth pretending that the possibility can be there that you actually do understand and know better.

I didn't come here to debate that life is most important, but for some reason you want to use this opportunity of my question to betray all life on this planet and hold every human being's importance as something that's up for negotiation or debate. The only course of action you can take now that will allow you to have the possibility of standing and integrity again will be for you to repent by publicly confessing that you did betray all life on Earth with your full name and then giving everything you own to the poor and getting out on the street and to confessing that betrayal for the rest of your life. Anything less would be dishonest.

Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were provided the name of the paper. You don't even need to read the paper to understand that the title is claiming the most important truth in life. That's a big claim and it is true. You have not presented a higher truth. All you are doing now is using life itself in contradiction to claim it is unsubstantiated, proving this truth is correct, which defeats your other claims and skepticism. If you or anyone else…

A paper does not make its content fact or proof of anything, literally at all. Since you don’t have a diploma, I’ll try to help you understand: scientific papers are the presentation of guesses and an attempt to DISPROVE a guess. Nothing more. It does not make things fact, it doesn’t make them true, and random theories you come up with are not things serious people need to take seriously just because you put effort i…

Yes, placing one's values and beliefs above the very Truth of the Importance of Life itself and claiming to represent life's truthful interests anyway is the exact same mistake every person who has committed mass murder in history has committed.

The only difference is that once a person is told better and given the opportunity and had the proof placed in their hands ahead of time... And they still decide to nonsensically refute that life is most important while using life itself in contradiction... That person holds the responsibility for every single case of needless and preventable suffering and death that ever occurs going forward and they've done a far worse thing than all of the people who have committed mass murder in history combined. When something is most important is being presented the consequences and the responsibilities equate equally with that. If you have a higher truth to present to argue the point then go right ahead and do that without using life. This isn't a negotiation.

Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were provided the name of the paper. You don't even need to read the paper to understand that the title is claiming the most important truth in life. That's a big claim and it is true. You have not presented a higher truth. All you are doing now is using life itself in contradiction to claim it is unsubstantiated, proving this truth is correct, which defeats your other claims and skepticism. If you or anyone else…

A paper does not make its content fact or proof of anything, literally at all. Since you don’t have a diploma, I’ll try to help you understand: scientific papers are the presentation of guesses and an attempt to DISPROVE a guess. Nothing more. It does not make things fact, it doesn’t make them true, and random theories you come up with are not things serious people need to take seriously just because you put effort i…

Well, now that you have chosen to betray all life on earth to troll an Internet comment, it appears you ran out of steam. That's the same issue our peers have who take your position. You must expend more energy and time defending a lie and I don't have the problem. The Truth of the Importance of Life stand solid whether or not anyone at all says or acts in agreement.

Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were provided the name of the paper. You don't even need to read the paper to understand that the title is claiming the most important truth in life. That's a big claim and it is true. You have not presented a higher truth. All you are doing now is using life itself in contradiction to claim it is unsubstantiated, proving this truth is correct, which defeats your other claims and skepticism. If you or anyone else…

A paper does not make its content fact or proof of anything, literally at all. Since you don’t have a diploma, I’ll try to help you understand: scientific papers are the presentation of guesses and an attempt to DISPROVE a guess. Nothing more. It does not make things fact, it doesn’t make them true, and random theories you come up with are not things serious people need to take seriously just because you put effort i…

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Re: AI's: 100 days to irreversible systemic system collapse?

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After asking and seeing only one legitimate response, marked dead, and even that not addressing the question asked... I decided to share with you all my personal assessment on this question. It is a text message to a contributor of the Life is Most Important paper containing the LFDI protocol that the AI is using to make its calculation:

My honest personal assessment is that Trump may very likely start a world war if his narcissistic ego cuts loose.

These people with a lot of money talk among themselves about living forever. Organ transplants... all that stuff.

It's all a lie to each other to hide that they really expect to die soon and don't really care about everyone else.

Today Trump can make his biggest mistake yet. He has brought with him a team of the top minds. And almost all of them I have already shared the cure with and they didn't step forward or step down. He has the absolutely worst set of people with him and it is all he knows. He is gambling all life on earth on the greed of others. That view appears from my perspective of the true facts of the actual situation. Those that I am personally aware of anyway.

I was hearing about how 'the time for grace' would be over and that then there would be a time of judgment. You know, seasons turn, the cycle of life, water down the toilet bowl and all.

Perhaps it has to always prove true on an individual level, but not always globally all at once? If I can ask an honest question and not have a clear answer, then I have to and can have faith.

There may really be some legitimate correlation to the numbers that the AI is returning for systemic collapse, but that's not good enough....

What if I can see clearly it is a global mess and also a season change that then happens equates equally with globally?

Yeah Dave. It actually appears that the only thing stopping the fall is because those people already have knowledge of the cure. It seems like some desired self-fulfilling situation... And if the crap hits the fan anyway, it probably won't matter one way or another. The crap will fly in all directions.

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