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Re: Your terminal is burning battery like it's mining Bitcoin

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Post by volemo »

nick_ wrote: post #6
Computer0 wrote: post #2

I don't know that I have ever understood a reason to leave the native terminal included with any given OS, particularly after the Windows modernization pass in recent years on the terminal.

Same. Need multiple terminals visible at once? New window. Need a few separate sessions? New tab(s). All the bells and whistles people have shown me over the years... it never even gets close to making me think "oh yea, that's better than basic tab/window management and the terminal app that comes with my OS".

That requires a good window manager, which macOS does not have.

Re: Your terminal is burning battery like it's mining Bitcoin

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Post by justsomehnguy »

rmunn wrote: post #9
exabrial wrote: post #7

All the stupid spinners at the prompt are obnoxious. Unfortunately it’s so trendy it’s impossible to reverse course

Good tools will have an option to disable the spinner. Haven't used Claude Code yet so don't know if it falls into the category of "good tools" by that definition. :-)

I like what you need to know a bazillion ways to disable all this unnecessary cruft.

And people would be angry if you even note what you don't need it.

I propose we should have some global switch to on/off these type of things, something like kern.fidget.widget=off or $VANILLA_PUMPKIN_LATTE=BROYEETSURE

Re: Your terminal is burning battery like it's mining Bitcoin

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Post by Bolwin »

bsder wrote: post #12

The issue isn't the terminal. The issue seems to be that Claude is using React to render to that terminal at 60FPS like a goddamn video game Vibe coding is soooo awesome! And people thought that Electron was a resource pig. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Yeah that was my first thought. Use a TUI that abuses the terminal to make a experience poorly recreating an actual GUI, don't be shocked if it doesn't turn out very efficient

Re: Your terminal is burning battery like it's mining Bitcoin

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Post by cyanydeez »

bsder wrote: post #12

The issue isn't the terminal. The issue seems to be that Claude is using React to render to that terminal at 60FPS like a goddamn video game Vibe coding is soooo awesome! And people thought that Electron was a resource pig. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Consider how bloated data centers are when local models are now equally capable of human-scoped problem solving.

Software bloat fills a void created by itself.

Re: Your terminal is burning battery like it's mining Bitcoin

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Post by cyanydeez »

nick_ wrote: post #6
Computer0 wrote: post #2

I don't know that I have ever understood a reason to leave the native terminal included with any given OS, particularly after the Windows modernization pass in recent years on the terminal.

Same. Need multiple terminals visible at once? New window. Need a few separate sessions? New tab(s). All the bells and whistles people have shown me over the years... it never even gets close to making me think "oh yea, that's better than basic tab/window management and the terminal app that comes with my OS".

tiling managers like Terminator are, to me, the most efficient. Something like Blender for hybrid customization might be a sweetspot. Blender allows for arbitrary layout and essentially tab control in any tile.

Re: Your terminal is burning battery like it's mining Bitcoin

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Post by anthk »

>Zaragoza, Hotel Pilar Plaza café.

I won't use neither Claude, nor a MacBook; I would just keep chilling out programming with decent tools and a bare XTerm to accomplish the rest. I can get Aragonese bricks ^U sweets in the meanwhile.

On Terminal.app, I wonder if the GNUStep eversion and the ones bundled with Mac OSX shared some code.

Re: Your terminal is burning battery like it's mining Bitcoin

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Post by anthk »

bsder wrote: post #12

The issue isn't the terminal. The issue seems to be that Claude is using React to render to that terminal at 60FPS like a goddamn video game Vibe coding is soooo awesome! And people thought that Electron was a resource pig. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Yeah, welcome to 1980, where a library coming from a roguelike shaped almost all the TUI's for Unix until ~2010 or so, Curses.

A 386 could run NetHack at blazing fast speeds and read the news in a TTY perfectly well.

A multicore machine can't get the basic thanks to the 'wonderful' JS. Heck, even s9 Scheme from http://t3x.org ships a Curses module, enough to drive some text and maybe boxes/menues and it should fit in two floppies. A single one if the image it's generated later on-disk.

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