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Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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Re: Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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Slowly clawing back liberties against this fascist administration.

Not really. The FAA revised the rule, but that was their choice, not the result of a ruling or even the reasoned application of a general principle. The very broad power of administrative rulemaking held by that agency is unchanged -- and the power of agencies generally, to make law without legislating, without accountability to the electorate, actually has nothing to do with this administration, does it? It actually…

I am not sure what is a better alternative. Laws can set the broad guidelines, but the people in those administrative roles have to make explicit decisions when gray areas inevitably arise. The legislature is free to codify the exact rules it wants when they disagree with the current setup.

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> the order extended no-fly zones to ground vehicles belonging to the Department of Homeland Security. Even while the vehicles were in motion. Even if they were unmarked. And even if their routes had not been announced. I want to know the genius who wrote this, and the mastermind who approved it.

Someone who doesn't get that we're supposed to have a representative government with enumerated powers in this country.

Or maybe they do get that, but find it incredibly inconvenient to their own aspirations.

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> the order extended no-fly zones to ground vehicles belonging to the Department of Homeland Security. Even while the vehicles were in motion. Even if they were unmarked. And even if their routes had not been announced. I want to know the genius who wrote this, and the mastermind who approved it.

This is exactly how corrupt, authoritarian governments have always operated.

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Unmarked no-fly zones at unannounced times and locations are a remarkable innovation. Hopefully they will tell you when and where you shouldn't have been when they charge you for it, but that may be classified.

Before you know it, they'll be detaining people without legal representation, shipping them to overseas black sites, and murdering citizens in the street. Oh, wait that's been the entirety of this treasonous administration.

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Unmarked no-fly zones at unannounced times and locations are a remarkable innovation. Hopefully they will tell you when and where you shouldn't have been when they charge you for it, but that may be classified.

Before you know it, they'll be detaining people without legal representation, shipping them to overseas black sites, and murdering citizens in the street. Oh, wait that's been the entirety of this treasonous administration.

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Re: Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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> the order extended no-fly zones to ground vehicles belonging to the Department of Homeland Security. Even while the vehicles were in motion. Even if they were unmarked. And even if their routes had not been announced. I want to know the genius who wrote this, and the mastermind who approved it.

Do no-fly zones extend indefinitely upwards? If so, can you build a no-fly wall out of cars?

Re: Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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> the order extended no-fly zones to ground vehicles belonging to the Department of Homeland Security. Even while the vehicles were in motion. Even if they were unmarked. And even if their routes had not been announced. I want to know the genius who wrote this, and the mastermind who approved it.

Do no-fly zones extend indefinitely upwards? If so, can you build a no-fly wall out of cars?

The article states 1,000 vertical feet. Obviously this is targeting small drones and not commercial aircraft or even general aviation.

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Unmarked no-fly zones at unannounced times and locations are a remarkable innovation. Hopefully they will tell you when and where you shouldn't have been when they charge you for it, but that may be classified.

Ambiguous laws (which in this case are by definition impossible to comply with) which are capriciously enforced are a hallmark of authoritarian and fascist regimes. Sadly ironic, the US government used to highlight this fact:

"Authoritarian regimes’ unclear laws make anyone a suspect" - https://ge.usembassy.gov/authoritarian-regimes-unclear-laws-...

Re: Drone pilot makes US rescind no-fly zones around unmarked, moving ICE vehicles

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> the order extended no-fly zones to ground vehicles belonging to the Department of Homeland Security. Even while the vehicles were in motion. Even if they were unmarked. And even if their routes had not been announced. I want to know the genius who wrote this, and the mastermind who approved it.

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