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Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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This seems nonsensical. Why would non-actions activity consume actions budget?

Agreed, especially weird since they just rolled out usage-based billing for Co-pilot. It would make a lot more sense to just re-use that usage instead IMHO

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Just you wait, this is a gentle tug to test how hard they can pull when the time comes.

It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. Usually a tech rugpull like this lasts a number of years. And this sort of has, but the agentic stuff has really only caught on like wildfire in the last, I dunno, six months or so. The rugpull would be way more effective if there could be several years of getting developers addicted to this development paradigm, but alas, the VC money burned was too great to subsi…

I wonder if it has anything to do with the war in the Middle East forcing gulf states to scale back investment

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> 10x the subscription price, but this seems high Inference is cheap but training is quite expensive. Plus all the money they've invested and keep investing on hardware, data centers, etc. And evidently they also need to make a profit at some point.

> Inference is cheap Maybe from the perspective of traditional, turn-based chat. But when you start having developers command an army of agents that work around the clock, those cheap tokens start adding up fast...

If the unit-economics work out and they can sell $0.99 of tokens for $1.00, doesn't matter how many agents you spin up. The flat rate subscriptions can't last though.

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scary but thank goodness github actions is highly reliable, robust to change, and has a simple-to-understand ontology.

To the naysayers, I would point out that actions has not only one but TWO 9s of uptime. [1]

[1] https://www.githubstatus.com/

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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Expect to see more of these kinds of announcements as companies need to start showing returns on their AI investments. It's hard to say how subsidized the current AI products are[1] but we're definitely getting a free lunch at VC's expense the moment. [1] Ed Zitron speculates the actual prices with token based billing for heavy users will be something like 10x the subscription price, but this seems high.

Not that I give much credence to anything Zitron says, but the amount of inference you can get on a £200 a month OpenAI or Anthropic subscription is easily an order of magnitude more than what you'd get paying the same amount at subscription rate. Although I would also point out that OpenAI recently tripled the amount of Codex inference you get per month for £200 (and to head off the suggestion, this is distinct from…

*more than what you'd get paying the same amount at usage rate.

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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scary but thank goodness github actions is highly reliable, robust to change, and has a simple-to-understand ontology.

To the naysayers, I would point out that actions has not only one but TWO 9s of uptime. [1] [1] https://www.githubstatus.com/

For all the hate it gets, I use them regularly with little to no complaints.

I have always found it as a pretty nice to have feature if I am already using GitHub. It’s far from perfect or robust but I can get a lot of use out of it with low to no friction.

Re: GitHub Copilot code review will start consuming GitHub Actions minutes

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> Inference is cheap Maybe from the perspective of traditional, turn-based chat. But when you start having developers command an army of agents that work around the clock, those cheap tokens start adding up fast...

If the unit-economics work out and they can sell $0.99 of tokens for $1.00, doesn't matter how many agents you spin up. The flat rate subscriptions can't last though.

> If the unit-economics work out and they can sell $0.99 of tokens for $1.00

I think the margins have to be a lot higher than that in order to give investors the return they're expecting, to continue the never-ending training treadmill, and to build more and more datacenters to accommodate people basically DDOS'ing the GPUs in order to run their workloads.

Yes, in theory what you said makes sense. But the tightrope these companies have to walk is that the per-token costs still have to be low enough that developers and companies don't just say "ehhh I guess we can still do all this work the old-fashioned way" but ALSO high enough to cover the massive expenses AND astronomical returns everyone's expecting.

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