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Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]

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Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]

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Interesting that they don't address whether there are concerns about it eroding tax revenue or if it is a threat to federal reserve notes.

I'm guessing it's because that's not something the FBI cares about. The FBI is just a police force; it ain't the Federal Reserve.

but you need a police force to enforce fiat :)

Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]

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post #5

Nice document. It shows well the way of thinking of our governments. "detecting suspicious activity, identifying users, and obtaining transaction records is problematic for law enforcement." - That must deeply hurts FBI people :) "Despite the virtual nature of Bitcoin, users value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, servi…

With so few people - in Germany at least - having their assets in Gold etc. but in bank accounts in $,EUR,... I assume most people trust the currency.

Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]

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post #5

Nice document. It shows well the way of thinking of our governments. "detecting suspicious activity, identifying users, and obtaining transaction records is problematic for law enforcement." - That must deeply hurts FBI people :) "Despite the virtual nature of Bitcoin, users value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, servi…

> People do not trust "Federal Reserve notes"

Really? There I was thinking foreign governments liked holding their reserves in US dollars...

> that at least some people realize that there is no such a thing like US dollar, only those "notes" printed by Ben Bernanke and his pals

Wake up, SHEEPLE!

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post #7

> FBI assesses with high confidence that [...] malicious actors can [...] use botnets to generate bitcoins. As far as I understand bitcoin (which isn't too far, admittedly), the generation of bitcoins is actually encouraged, and only possible within some well-defined boundaries which basically just ensures that bitcoins are put into circulation up until it hits the fixed limit. Maybe someone could clear that up for m…

Interestingly botnets are probably a month away from being unprofitable for mining Bitcoins, in fact GPUs will be unprofitable for mining Bitcoins all-together. ASIC devices are being shipped over the next six months which will increase the mining difficulty substantially.

Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]

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post #5

Nice document. It shows well the way of thinking of our governments. "detecting suspicious activity, identifying users, and obtaining transaction records is problematic for law enforcement." - That must deeply hurts FBI people :) "Despite the virtual nature of Bitcoin, users value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, servi…

>People do not trust "Federal Reserve notes"

I trust Federal Reserve notes. US currency has high barriers to counterfeiting and can be exchanged for goods and/or services with actual rather than virtual anonymity. I may be a cave man, but I'm not alone. US banknotes are the 'gold standard' of black and grey markets around the world.

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post #7

> FBI assesses with high confidence that [...] malicious actors can [...] use botnets to generate bitcoins. As far as I understand bitcoin (which isn't too far, admittedly), the generation of bitcoins is actually encouraged, and only possible within some well-defined boundaries which basically just ensures that bitcoins are put into circulation up until it hits the fixed limit. Maybe someone could clear that up for m…

Yes they would be performing a useful function for the bitcoin ecosystem.

No, it's not acceptable to hijack thousands of computers through malware and use their processing power and electricity to mine bitcoin for you. That's why they're malicious, the computers they're using aren't theirs.

Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]

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post #5

Nice document. It shows well the way of thinking of our governments. "detecting suspicious activity, identifying users, and obtaining transaction records is problematic for law enforcement." - That must deeply hurts FBI people :) "Despite the virtual nature of Bitcoin, users value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, servi…

People do not trust "Federal Reserve notes" (or any other official currency) - they are forced to use it, since they must pay taxes in it.

That doesn't explain why people continue to accept official currency in excess of their anticipated tax bill, or why criminals who aren't expecting to pay tax at all still deal in official currency.

Re: Internal FBI risk assessment of Bitcoin network [pdf]

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post #5

Nice document. It shows well the way of thinking of our governments. "detecting suspicious activity, identifying users, and obtaining transaction records is problematic for law enforcement." - That must deeply hurts FBI people :) "Despite the virtual nature of Bitcoin, users value the currency for many of the same reasons people trust Federal Reserve notes: they believe they can exchange the currency for goods, servi…

LOL.

Most people do trust cash, within certain limits, because they're not crazy libertarians. The value of bitcoin is every bit as illusory and consensual as paper money.

That it's not under central control and has a fixed supply is interesting, but doesn't give it intrinsic value.

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