Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

support.claude.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 36 posts

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#11

Post by esperent »

underyx wrote: post #8

> this is an outdated support article from before we had Opus in Pro plans, we rolled it out for Opus 4.5 in Jan and never updated, you can see in the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20251204151142/https://support.c... > apologies for the confusion response from @thariq

I don't see any evidence of that, the current, live page clearly states:

> Model access: When using a Pro plan with Claude Code, you will only be able to use Opus models after enabling and purchasing extra usage.

And your extremely slow loading archive link is just the same page with the same text.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#12

Post by xer0x »

underyx wrote: post #8

> this is an outdated support article from before we had Opus in Pro plans, we rolled it out for Opus 4.5 in Jan and never updated, you can see in the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20251204151142/https://support.c... > apologies for the confusion response from @thariq

Thank-you for posting this update. EDIT: However purchasing extra-usage for Pro/Max accounts is a new feature.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#13

Post by thoughtlede »

Investor funds have been subsidizing the inference costs so far.

Investors might move from funding the model providers to funding the enterprises that use those models. That is, they might move from funding the cost of the experiment to funding the value of the result. No funding if there are no demonstrable AI gains.

This is a reasonable shift if this happens. If enough gains have been demonstrated, then investors might go back to funding the model providers. Investors always move towards the highest leverage point.

As long as AI delivers, this would be the rhythm.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#14

Post by [deleted] »

underyx wrote: post #8

> this is an outdated support article from before we had Opus in Pro plans, we rolled it out for Opus 4.5 in Jan and never updated, you can see in the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20251204151142/https://support.c... > apologies for the confusion response from @thariq

[deleted]

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#15

Post by j45 »

thoughtlede wrote: post #13

Investor funds have been subsidizing the inference costs so far. Investors might move from funding the model providers to funding the enterprises that use those models. That is, they might move from funding the cost of the experiment to funding the value of the result. No funding if there are no demonstrable AI gains. This is a reasonable shift if this happens. If enough gains have been demonstrated, then investors m…

Investors can try to subsidize while the cost of delivery, evolution, and efficiency improves, while at the same time completing market capture.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#17

Post by strictnein »

xer0x wrote: post #12
underyx wrote: post #8

> this is an outdated support article from before we had Opus in Pro plans, we rolled it out for Opus 4.5 in Jan and never updated, you can see in the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20251204151142/https://support.c... > apologies for the confusion response from @thariq

Thank-you for posting this update. EDIT: However purchasing extra-usage for Pro/Max accounts is a new feature.

It's been a feature on the Max accounts for a while now.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#18

Post by batshit_beaver »

This is going to be interesting.

At least for coding, there's little correlation between token spend and the quality (and impact) of the resulting AI suggestion.

This is fine when inference prices are capped (eg via a monthly subscription plan or self-hosting), but rapidly discombobulates the relationship between provider and user otherwise.

It still seems like OpenAI has no moat and neither does anyone else, as the only reasonable way to use the coding slot machines is going to be via open source models on inference-optimized hardware.

Still better than the secret lobotomization they were doing on subscription plan models though.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#19

Post by this_user »

Aboutplants wrote: post #7

Turns out when the bills start rolling in you need the revenue to pay them. Here comes the bumpy ride

OpenAI and Anthropic are both planning IPOs this year. They are clearly trying to polish their finances before filing their S-1s. Because their advisors will have told them that it's going to be a very difficult sell at these valuations if they cannot at least present the idea of a path towards profitability.

Re: Claude Pro: Opus model will only be available if extra usage is enabled

#20

Post by helsinkiandrew »

esperent wrote: post #11
underyx wrote: post #8

> this is an outdated support article from before we had Opus in Pro plans, we rolled it out for Opus 4.5 in Jan and never updated, you can see in the wayback machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20251204151142/https://support.c... > apologies for the confusion response from @thariq

I don't see any evidence of that, the current, live page clearly states: > Model access: When using a Pro plan with Claude Code, you will only be able to use Opus models after enabling and purchasing extra usage. And your extremely slow loading archive link is just the same page with the same text.

> I don't see any evidence of that, the current, live page clearly states

The live page - last edited 15 minutes after your comment - no longer has that passage.

Post reply on HN