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Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Re: Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Post by throwa356262 »

doubled112 wrote: post #8
throwa356262 wrote: post #7

If they can improve the driver situation and make those copilot+ NPU better supported under Linux I am all for it. But if AI is going to be the new snap, I think more people will switch to Debian despite their ancient kernel and applications.

> ancient kernel and applications This isn't as big a problem these days. Most people run the latest LTS of Ubuntu. Until a week ago, Ubuntu LTS was OLDER (in kernel and in software) than the latest Debian release. In between, Ubuntu has the HWE kernels and Debian usually backports them.

Fair point, but right now latest Ubuntu is on 7.x while latest debian is on 6.19.

Latest AMD ryzen for example works much better on 7.1

Re: Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Post by ryandrake »

I don't get this focus on the technology that's driving the features, over the features themselves.

Maybe I'm just not the typical Linux user anymore, but as a user, when I think about what I want feature-wise from software, I think in terms of concrete features: I want X, Y, and Z new functionality. If the developer can "use AI" to power it, fine. If they use traditional algorithms to power it, also fine. If they use literal sorcery to power it, great, I don't care.

At no point in my life have I ever said "I want technology ABC to power features, but I don't really have in mind what those features might be."

Re: Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Post by doubled112 »

throwa356262 wrote: post #11
doubled112 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ancient kernel and applications This isn't as big a problem these days. Most people run the latest LTS of Ubuntu. Until a week ago, Ubuntu LTS was OLDER (in kernel and in software) than the latest Debian release. In between, Ubuntu has the HWE kernels and Debian usually backports them.

Fair point, but right now latest Ubuntu is on 7.x while latest debian is on 6.19. Latest AMD ryzen for example works much better on 7.1

7.0.1 has been in Debian experimental for a few days now. Shouldn't be much longer.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Post by anthk »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #10
doubled112 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ancient kernel and applications This isn't as big a problem these days. Most people run the latest LTS of Ubuntu. Until a week ago, Ubuntu LTS was OLDER (in kernel and in software) than the latest Debian release. In between, Ubuntu has the HWE kernels and Debian usually backports them.

Do you need to use testing to get the updated packages?

Backports maybe.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Post by threecheese »

goldenarm wrote: post #3

Has anyone ever seen a person using "context-aware OS" features like Microsoft Recall ?

There was an early product named Rewind.ai (they have pivoted to Limitless Pin) which did essentially the same, I used it frequently - it essentially browser history but for everything you do on your computer, and you’ll get just about the same value as that.

Re: Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Post by dpoloncsak »

ryandrake wrote: post #12

I don't get this focus on the technology that's driving the features, over the features themselves. Maybe I'm just not the typical Linux user anymore, but as a user, when I think about what I want feature-wise from software, I think in terms of concrete features: I want X, Y, and Z new functionality. If the developer can "use AI" to power it, fine. If they use traditional algorithms to power it, also fine. If they us…

I actually think it's the opposite. The impression I get from the 'average Linux user' is that they want more control over and insight to what their system/programs are doing, whereas AI tends to provide less. I appreciate open-source code because you can see how it works, instead of black-box 'sorcery'

I understand the benefits of abstracting some of these features away for casual users...but even Ubuntu, arguably one of the most 'casual' flavors of Linux, is still geared more towards a 'power user' than your average Joe

Re: Ubuntu Linux Will Begin Landing AI Features Throughout the Next Year

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Post by ss_talha »

rf15 wrote: post #14

well, I guess I left Ubuntu just in time for the inevitable AI enshittification. I stayed even as Unity and Gnome 3 made the rounds (which I was also unhappy about), but changed a month ago to a European Linux and Desktop Environment.

Well lets just hope this AI is not a burden on us.
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