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Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by pjmlp »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #4

Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

I have zero reasons to recomend paying 800 euros for a mobile SOC with 8 GB, and the Apple experience is pretty much hit and miss, it certainly isn't worthwhile the extra cost when one needs to top it up with Apple Care, and get lemons like buterfly keyboard, Tahoe and many other issues that get had waved because "It is Apple!".

Then you get the nerds that get Apple because "I know this, it is UNIX!", when in reality what they wanted was GNU/Linux, and then complain all the time it isn't, because they skipped the class where UNIX, POSIX and all differences throught history were explained.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by kay_o »

dankwizard wrote: post #6

This one isn't rocket science. Framework isn't as mass market as your typical laptop competitors. You can make an assumption a purchaser of framework is tech minded / informed shopper. You can also see their prebuilt option is Windows only. When going DIY, adding Windows is between $225 and $339 depending on edition. Most informed shoppers and techheads also know you can go to key selling websites and get completely…

Most tech heads would just use the activator, since the key selling sites are simply sending The last few I've seen on G2A were phished/stolen bizspark or similar accounts and bulk "reclaimed". I would imagine most keyshops are similar.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by orphea »

dankwizard wrote: post #6

This one isn't rocket science. Framework isn't as mass market as your typical laptop competitors. You can make an assumption a purchaser of framework is tech minded / informed shopper. You can also see their prebuilt option is Windows only. When going DIY, adding Windows is between $225 and $339 depending on edition. Most informed shoppers and techheads also know you can go to key selling websites and get completely…

  get completely legal and working Windows keys for
You cannot. The fact that a $20 key may activate Windows doesn't make the installation legal, Windows is still pirated. And you can pirate it $20 cheaper.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by cromka »

eigenspace wrote: post #10
notepad0x90 wrote: post #4

Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

Framework laptops are selling like crazy. The pre-orders on their highest end configuration of the new pro are completely sold out, and the pre-orders on the two lower variants are backed up until their 9th batch that wont ship until August. It looks like theyre selling more laptops than they expected to, not less. Their laptops are niche, but that niche seems to be growing quite nicely. There's a big cultural wave o…

We don't know the batch sizes to make such statements.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by eigenspace »

cromka wrote: post #15
eigenspace wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Framework laptops are selling like crazy. The pre-orders on their highest end configuration of the new pro are completely sold out, and the pre-orders on the two lower variants are backed up until their 9th batch that wont ship until August. It looks like theyre selling more laptops than they expected to, not less. Their laptops are niche, but that niche seems to be growing quite nicely. There's a big cultural wave o…

We don't know the batch sizes to make such statements.

It's at the very least indicative that they are selling more units than they expected to sell, and likely dont have enough allocation of at least some of those chips.

Sure, they could have thought it'd only sell a tiny number of units, but if they thought that, they wouldnt have launched the product.

Im happy for them

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by ktallett »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #4

Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

The framework 12 is comparable in cost to a macbook neo, plus can work with a stylus as a tablet. I would say that is huge reason to recommend it. As well as that it can be repaired and upgraded as and when you want which is handy. Likewise it also can be used indefinitely theoretically as you can replace broken parts and a computer from 15 years ago is still usable today, so I am sure computers from today can still be used in 15 years.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by commandersaki »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #4

Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

The macbook neo is pretty repairable. Getting parts might be an issue though.

Re: Framework's new Linux laptop is selling faster than its Windows one

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Post by d3Xt3r »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #4

Is framework aiming for mass market breakthrough? if so, I hope they're planning on the macbook neo. I have no reason to recommend it outside of tech-enthusiast circles over a macbook now, thanks to the neo. But I really don't think they want mass market, it wouldn't be a win for anyone. By design, it's a "repairable" computer, so people who want to repair their own laptop are the main customers. You can't repair mac…

It's less about repairability and more about modularity and upgradability. The repairability is just a bonus as a result of its modular-first design.

The whole point of the Framework is that it's your "final" laptop. Just buy it once, and upgrade whatever part you wish as and when you want to. For instance, folks who got the original Framwork 5 years ago can still buy the latest mainboard or chassis and keep using the rest of their gear, if they wanted to.

Of course, most people don't care about all that these days. Heck, most people don't even care about owning a computer, since smartphones have taken over.

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