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I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by DeathArrow »

I use Claude Code with GLM, Kimi and MiniMax models. :)

I was worried about Anthropic models quality varying and about Anthropic jacking up prices.

I don't think Claude Code is the best agent orchestrator and harness in existence but it's most widely supported by plugins and skills.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by cbg0 »

I've been a fan since the launch of the first Sonnet model and big props for standing up to the government, but you can sure lose that good faith fast when you piss off your paying customers with bad communication, shaky model quality and lowered usage limits.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#13

Post by willio58 »

jwaldrip wrote: post #5

I would love to just say that if you are using claude code, you should no be on pro. I feel like all the people complaining are complaining that an agent cant handle the work of a developer for $20/m. Get on at least max 5, its a world of a difference.

True that.

Max 5, sonnet for 95% of things. I never run out of tokens in a week and I use it for ~5-6 hours a day.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by giancarlostoro »

I'm torn because I use it in my spare time, so I've missed some of these issues, I don't use it 9 to 5, but I've built some amazing things, when 1 Million tokens dropped, that was peak Claude Code for me, it was also when I suspect their issues started. I've built up some things I've been drafting in my head for ages but never had time for, and I can review the code and refine it until it looks good.

I'm debating trying out Codex, from some people I hear its "uncapped" from others I hear they reached limits in short spans of time.

There's also the really obnoxious "trust me bro" documentation update from OpenClaw where they claim Anthropic is allowing OpenClaw usage again, but no official statement?

Dear Anthropic:

I would love to build a custom harness that just uses my Claude Code subscription, I promise I wont leave it running 24/7, 365, can you please tell me how I can do this? I don't want to see some obscure tweet, make official blog posts or documentation pages to reflect policies.

Can I get whitelisted for "sane use" of my Claude Code subscription? I would love this. I am not dropping $2400 in credits for something I do for fun in my free time.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#15

Post by kleene_op »

easythrees wrote: post #3

I have to say, this has been the opposite of my experience. If anything, I have moved over more work from ChatGPT to Claude.

Same. I am getting crazy good value from Claude at work, on both scientific applications and deployment environments.

There is one caveat, and that is you have to give the model well thought out constraints to guide it properly, and absolutely take the time to read all the thinking it's doing and not be afraid to stop the process whenever things go sideway.

People who just let Claude roam free on their repository deserve everything they end up with.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#16

Post by sgt »

minimaxir wrote: post #9
zendarr wrote: post #7

Seems like some of the token issues may be corrected now https://www.anthropic.com/engineering/april-23-postmortem

These changes fixed some of the token issues, but the token bloat is an intrinsic problem to the model, and Anthropic's solution of defaulting to xhigh reasoning for Opus 4.7 just means you'll go through tokens faster anyways.

I'm worried anything less than xhigh is insufficient though. What do you do?

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by giancarlostoro »

wilbur_whateley wrote: post #2

Claude with Sonnet medium effort just used 100% of my session limit, some extra dollars, thought for 53 minutes, and said: API Error: Claude's response exceeded the 32000 output token maximum. To configure this behavior, set the CLAUDE_CODE_MAX_OUTPUT_TOKENS environment variable.

You're using it within their high usage rate window. I hope you're aware of this, if you use it out of the high usage time window it's supposed to use less, but it does seem a little odd that Sonnet uses so much, even on Medium.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

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Post by jasonlotito »

wilbur_whateley wrote: post #2

Claude with Sonnet medium effort just used 100% of my session limit, some extra dollars, thought for 53 minutes, and said: API Error: Claude's response exceeded the 32000 output token maximum. To configure this behavior, set the CLAUDE_CODE_MAX_OUTPUT_TOKENS environment variable.

Just curious, what version of Max are you on: 5x or 20x?

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#19

Post by janwillemb »

This is what worries me. People become dependent on these GenAI products that are proprietary, not transparant, and need a subscription. People build on it like it is a solid foundation. But all of a sudden the owner just pulls the foundation from under your building.

Re: I cancelled Claude: Token issues, declining quality, and poor support

#20

Post by drunken_thor »

AI services are only minorly incentivized to reduce token usage. They want high token usage, it makes you pay more. They are going to continually test where the limit is, what is the max token usage before you get angry. All AI companies will continue to trade places for token use and cost as cost increases. We are in tepid water pretending it is a bath pretending we aren’t about to be boiled frogs.
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