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Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
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Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dave working at meta is indeed in part responsible for meta doings. Yes leaving has a cost. That’s the whole point. Meta actions also have associated costs, it is just externalized and doesn’t impact Dave directly
As I said before. Its very easy to suggest that someone should leave their job on ideological grounds when its someone else you've never met. You have to understand, this hypothetical guy has never met zuck. He's quite possibly never met anyone who has never met zuck. He may well not live in america. The job market for programmers is not good right now. Estimates put average time in unemployment at 12+ months. Would…
Meta hasn’t suddenly gone bad in the last 12 months. Anyone who has joined in the last 15 years has done so knowing full well what sort of company it is, and what sort of evil it does.
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dave working at meta is indeed in part responsible for meta doings. Yes leaving has a cost. That’s the whole point. Meta actions also have associated costs, it is just externalized and doesn’t impact Dave directly
As I said before. Its very easy to suggest that someone should leave their job on ideological grounds when its someone else you've never met. You have to understand, this hypothetical guy has never met zuck. He's quite possibly never met anyone who has never met zuck. He may well not live in america. The job market for programmers is not good right now. Estimates put average time in unemployment at 12+ months. Would…
Do you see how this topic might mirror something like some dudes just working on the Death Star, never having actually met a sith?
There's been whole genocidal campaigns waged where people were just treating it as a day job.
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#14In the actual article (not the headline) there is no mention of staff reporting to be unhappy.
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I said before. Its very easy to suggest that someone should leave their job on ideological grounds when its someone else you've never met. You have to understand, this hypothetical guy has never met zuck. He's quite possibly never met anyone who has never met zuck. He may well not live in america. The job market for programmers is not good right now. Estimates put average time in unemployment at 12+ months. Would…
Do you see how this topic might mirror something like some dudes just working on the Death Star, never having actually met a sith? There's been whole genocidal campaigns waged where people were just treating it as a day job.
yes? this isn't a "just following orders isnt a defence" case. Almost everyone at meta did nothing of the sort of bad stuff. There are nearly a hundred thousand people working at meta.
This is a "being a part of an extremely large group of people, some entirely separate members of the group are doing bad stuff"
Are there no groups you are a part of where members have done bad things? are you sure?
Do you seriously blame the death star technicians? The cooks at the death star canteen? I find that extremely hard to understand. Do you dislike people from entire countries because of things their governments did too?
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#16Surveillance for thee, not for me
Surveillance for all
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#17I really don't like the conflation of all meta staff with the strategy of the massive multinational corpo-monster that is meta itself. Its very easy to suggest that someone should leave their job on ideological grounds when its someone else you've never met. I don't work at meta, I work at a large non-tech company. I've been seeing it more and more these days. People do it for programmers as a whole too, or scientist…
If you work there, you are part of the problem, there is no excuse for that.
Nobody is forcing you to work there.
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#18s/Irony/Schadenfreude/g
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you see how this topic might mirror something like some dudes just working on the Death Star, never having actually met a sith? There's been whole genocidal campaigns waged where people were just treating it as a day job.
yes? this isn't a "just following orders isnt a defence" case. Almost everyone at meta did nothing of the sort of bad stuff. There are nearly a hundred thousand people working at meta. This is a "being a part of an extremely large group of people, some entirely separate members of the group are doing bad stuff" Are there no groups you are a part of where members have done bad things? are you sure? Do you seriously bl…
You are equating countries with corporations now?
How does that even remotely make sense?
Re: Irony as Meta staff unhappy about running surveillance software on work PCs
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you see how this topic might mirror something like some dudes just working on the Death Star, never having actually met a sith? There's been whole genocidal campaigns waged where people were just treating it as a day job.
yes? this isn't a "just following orders isnt a defence" case. Almost everyone at meta did nothing of the sort of bad stuff. There are nearly a hundred thousand people working at meta. This is a "being a part of an extremely large group of people, some entirely separate members of the group are doing bad stuff" Are there no groups you are a part of where members have done bad things? are you sure? Do you seriously bl…
> Do you dislike people from entire countries because of things their governments did too?
You can’t choose where you’re born, you can choose who you work for.