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Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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Has anyone made the jump from a Mac to Framework as a daily driver? This is the first model to get my attention as a possible candidate for a full switch to Linux.

I have a MacBook Air M2. I bought a framework 13 last year right before the RAM shortage. I really wanted to love it but ended up returning it due to really bad battery life performance (NixOS). Still on the MacBook today, but heavily considering the new framework

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#12
post #5

The whole page advertises how well this runs Linux, but then… > The side-firing speakers are tuned with Dolby Atmos® to deliver clear, balanced audio on Windows

Don't forget literally all the battery values are specified as Windows 11.

Not literally all; they say

> 7 days

> Standby without charging

> Wi-Fi connected on Ubuntu

(I'm unimpressed with listing all the "active" battery life listings with Windows, mind; I just want us to be precise in our criticisms.)

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

#13
post #9

I'm really looking forward to having this as the go-to laptop to recommend to devs again. The original Framework chassis was really showing it's age next to e.g. a MacBook Pro or the new XPS 14. Having mainline Linux on a system with 24h+ battery life in a 13" case is pretty damn impressive.

> Having mainline Linux on a system with 24h+ battery life in a 13" case is pretty damn impressive.

Does it have such battery life on Linux? The benchmarks, apart from suspend battery life, are for Windows.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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I really want to love this thing but at least in the UK, matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer.

Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra X7 358H, 16GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter)

Framework 13 Pro: £2264 (Ultra X7 358H, 32GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter)

MacBook Pro 14: £1699 (M5, 16GB, 1TB, no adapter)

MacBook Pro 14: £2099 (M5, 32GB, 1TB, no adapter)

MacBook Pro 14: £2199 (M5 Pro, 24GB, 1TB, no adapter) - added as I think it’s an even better deal

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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The whole page advertises how well this runs Linux, but then… > The side-firing speakers are tuned with Dolby Atmos® to deliver clear, balanced audio on Windows

Well you know how it is on linux, one wrong move and pulseaudio needs restarting lol.

At least pulseaudio is pretty much dead now and we have pipewire.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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post #9

I'm really looking forward to having this as the go-to laptop to recommend to devs again. The original Framework chassis was really showing it's age next to e.g. a MacBook Pro or the new XPS 14. Having mainline Linux on a system with 24h+ battery life in a 13" case is pretty damn impressive.

> Having mainline Linux on a system with 24h+ battery life in a 13" case is pretty damn impressive. Does it have such battery life on Linux? The benchmarks, apart from suspend battery life, are for Windows.

Don't see why it wouldn't - as long as pstate etc. works it should be the same. I'd argue it's probably better given that modern desktops use far less resources in the background compared to Windows

I bet they don't publish Linux numbers because it depends on which desktop you use etc.

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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The whole page advertises how well this runs Linux, but then… > The side-firing speakers are tuned with Dolby Atmos® to deliver clear, balanced audio on Windows

Well you know how it is on linux, one wrong move and pulseaudio needs restarting lol.

Who does still run pulseaudio when pipewire exists?

Re: Framework Laptop 13 Pro

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I really want to love this thing but at least in the UK, matching specs it comes out as more expensive than the MBP - even worse when you factor in potential discounts/sales which framework doesn't offer. Framework 13 Pro: £2064 (Ultra X7 358H, 16GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) Framework 13 Pro: £2264 (Ultra X7 358H, 32GB, 1TB, default ports, no adapter) MacBook Pro 14: £1699 (M5, 16GB, 1TB, no adapter) MacBook P…

Does MBP run Linux? That would be the selling point for me ... But I guess I am not in a big group.

Also MBP is not really repairable at all.

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