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Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by rubyfan »

ch4s3 wrote: post #3

IMO we should ban gathering this data without a warrant or specific contractual agreement between the device owner and entity aggregating the data. As much as congress loves to claim the interstate commerce theory of everything, this seems like a slam dunk.

I think we should make this type of tracking opt-out by default. We should also ban the sale of its use to third parties and its use for purposes other than the specific functionality which required it to be enabled in the first place.

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by rubyfan »

Dwedit wrote: post #8
ch4s3 wrote: post #3

IMO we should ban gathering this data without a warrant or specific contractual agreement between the device owner and entity aggregating the data. As much as congress loves to claim the interstate commerce theory of everything, this seems like a slam dunk.

Contractual agreement? Nobody reads things like EULAs or terms of service. It's probably in there already.

Right, privacy terms are written to be vague and permissive. Even if you read them you can’t usually understand how the data will be used or opt out.

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by toofy »

Dwedit wrote: post #8
ch4s3 wrote: post #3

IMO we should ban gathering this data without a warrant or specific contractual agreement between the device owner and entity aggregating the data. As much as congress loves to claim the interstate commerce theory of everything, this seems like a slam dunk.

Contractual agreement? Nobody reads things like EULAs or terms of service. It's probably in there already.

if it were up to me i’d require a hand signed contract that explicitly, up front and in plain english gives permission and is not transferable to any “partners”.

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by troupo »

ch4s3 wrote: post #3

IMO we should ban gathering this data without a warrant or specific contractual agreement between the device owner and entity aggregating the data. As much as congress loves to claim the interstate commerce theory of everything, this seems like a slam dunk.

> IMO we should ban gathering this data without

GDPR tried. And the narrative around GDPR was deliberately completely derailed by adtech.

Lack of enforcement didn't help either

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by ch4s3 »

Dwedit wrote: post #8
ch4s3 wrote: post #3

IMO we should ban gathering this data without a warrant or specific contractual agreement between the device owner and entity aggregating the data. As much as congress loves to claim the interstate commerce theory of everything, this seems like a slam dunk.

Contractual agreement? Nobody reads things like EULAs or terms of service. It's probably in there already.

I should have been a bit more clear. We should ban retention for any purposes where it is not explicitly required for the intended function and clearly agreed to by all parties. Think somethig like strava or asset tracking. You know it stores gps data, and why.

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by gruez »

rubyfan wrote: post #11
ch4s3 wrote: post #3

IMO we should ban gathering this data without a warrant or specific contractual agreement between the device owner and entity aggregating the data. As much as congress loves to claim the interstate commerce theory of everything, this seems like a slam dunk.

I think we should make this type of tracking opt-out by default. We should also ban the sale of its use to third parties and its use for purposes other than the specific functionality which required it to be enabled in the first place.

>I think we should make this type of tracking opt-out by default

That's opt-in, not opt-out.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opt-out

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by ch4s3 »

troupo wrote: post #15
ch4s3 wrote: post #3

IMO we should ban gathering this data without a warrant or specific contractual agreement between the device owner and entity aggregating the data. As much as congress loves to claim the interstate commerce theory of everything, this seems like a slam dunk.

> IMO we should ban gathering this data without GDPR tried. And the narrative around GDPR was deliberately completely derailed by adtech. Lack of enforcement didn't help either

GDPR like all EU regulation is needlessly complicated and aimed at a compliance model that seems designed for SAP.

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by troupo »

wolvoleo wrote: post #6

Just ban the sale of any kind of adtracking. That way we can get rid of the cookiewalls too. Missed opportunity by the EU when they wrote GDPR.

GDPR literally prohibits the sale of user data and tracking without user consent (because yes, you want to give people the possibility to opt in for a variety of reasons).

GDPR has literally nothing to do with cookie popups. That was, and is, adtech

Re: Ban the sale of precise geolocation

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Post by troupo »

ch4s3 wrote: post #18
troupo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IMO we should ban gathering this data without GDPR tried. And the narrative around GDPR was deliberately completely derailed by adtech. Lack of enforcement didn't help either

GDPR like all EU regulation is needlessly complicated and aimed at a compliance model that seems designed for SAP.

You can literally read the entire "complicated" regulation in one sitting in an afternoon. There's literally nothing complex or complicated about it.

Congrats on gullibly believing the ad tech narrative.

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