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Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by agentifysh »

netbioserror wrote: post #8
agentifysh wrote: post #6

is clojure still relevant in the post agentic coding reality that opens up pretty much all esoteric languages to everyone ? back in the day used to use clojure to write a fintech app but not sure if it is still relevant has uses vs other langs that have emerged

Clojure might be the least esoteric language ever. Call a function, get a value.

It definitely is more "mainstream" than others but I just don't see the same level of attention and enthusiasm around it anymore. I'm sure it is still being used in many places but like Elixir, hiring remains on the tough end.

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Post by TacticalCoder »

ares623 wrote: post #3

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The very official Clojure page in TFA links to clojure-mcp (written by the person who created figwheel: a famous ClojureScript library in the Clojure ecosystem) and other AI resources related to Clojure.

It's not because Rich doesn't want AI-generated pull-requests by people then taking credits that the Clojure community is anti-AI.

I use Claude Code CLI daily with Clojure, just not in a "write me five thousands lines of Clojure code I won't read" type of way.

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by pixelmonkey »

FelipeCortez wrote: post #9
Jeaye wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they mean the video thumbnail, which may or may not be AI-generated.

I don't think it is, considering they highlighted it in a post about human craft [1]. I read somewhere it was illustrated by felipemelo.net, but can't find the reference anymore [1]: https://bsky.app/profile/cultrepo.bsky.social/post/3mjhubrh3...

It'll be interesting to learn whether it was AI-generated. It certainly SEEMS like it is. It has a few "tells":

- two belts and two Clojure logo belt buckles

- same code repeated on the steps (odd artistic choice if made by the artist)

- the seemingly out-of-place scarf, stylistically its color/pattern doesn't seem to fit

Either way, it seems like an homage to this Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom poster:

https://www.slantmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/tem...

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by pixelmonkey »

pixelmonkey wrote: post #13
FelipeCortez wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it is, considering they highlighted it in a post about human craft [1]. I read somewhere it was illustrated by felipemelo.net, but can't find the reference anymore [1]: https://bsky.app/profile/cultrepo.bsky.social/post/3mjhubrh3...

It'll be interesting to learn whether it was AI-generated. It certainly SEEMS like it is. It has a few "tells": - two belts and two Clojure logo belt buckles - same code repeated on the steps (odd artistic choice if made by the artist) - the seemingly out-of-place scarf, stylistically its color/pattern doesn't seem to fit Either way, it seems like an homage to this Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom poster: https:/…

The BlueSky post has another interesting clue. The pencil sketch on the right. Seems possible a human artist drew the sketch, then had an AI model "colorize" it. And in so doing, maybe the AI model added the 3 genAI tells/artifacts I identified above.

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by yogthos »

agentifysh wrote: post #6

is clojure still relevant in the post agentic coding reality that opens up pretty much all esoteric languages to everyone ? back in the day used to use clojure to write a fintech app but not sure if it is still relevant has uses vs other langs that have emerged

Clojure is more relevant than ever in post agentic coding because of immutability and the REPL. The two big problems with agentic coding is context growing in unbounded fashion, and agents being able to get quick feedback on what they're doing. Mainstream languages fail on both accounts. I've found Clojure has been a great fit for keeping agents on track.

I've wrote about this in more detail here if you're interested https://yogthos.net/posts/2026-02-25-ai-at-scale.html

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by mkw5053 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #10

Incredible: I had not idea NuBank discovered Datomic first and that it's Datomic that led them to Clojure, 100 million+ customers, and eventually acquiring Cognitect. Good to see David Nolen (aka "swanodette") is in the documentary too. As a bonus here's a recent talk from David Nolen about Clojure/ClojureScript and using DOM morphing instead of React. If you don't want to watch it all, just take two minutes to watch…

I don't know if it's still the case, but at old clojure conferences, or meetups, or places of employment, emacs was a prereq and assumed (and the most enjoyable)

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by MarkMarine »

agentifysh wrote: post #6

is clojure still relevant in the post agentic coding reality that opens up pretty much all esoteric languages to everyone ? back in the day used to use clojure to write a fintech app but not sure if it is still relevant has uses vs other langs that have emerged

One of the main problems I have with the models coding is the feedback loop is way down the chain from generation, it's out at the commit boundary for python when your hooks are running, maybe at the point where the model wants to push a PR. The REPL lets that happen during generation, and the other safety measures help immensely. Immutable data, STM, all of the features in Clojure that gave devs super powers now do the same for a model.

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by malindasp »

The double belt buckle is a pretty classic diffusion model artifact — it struggles with symmetrical accessories because it's essentially pattern-matching textures rather than understanding "this person is wearing one belt." Same reason you see six-fingered hands.

The repeated code on the steps is actually the more interesting tell to me. An artist would vary that deliberately for visual interest. A model just tiles what it learned looks like "code."

That said, the pencil sketch theory is compelling. Hybrid workflows where a human does the composition and an AI handles color/rendering are increasingly common, and they produce exactly this kind of uncanny result — strong underlying structure with strange surface artifacts.

Whether it is or isn't AI, the irony of a documentary about a language whose community deeply values craft and intentionality potentially using generated art for the thumbnail is at least worth a raised eyebrow. Not outrage-worthy, just... a little incongruous.

Re: Official Clojure Documentary page with Video, Shownotes, and Links

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Post by hsaliak »

agentifysh wrote: post #6

is clojure still relevant in the post agentic coding reality that opens up pretty much all esoteric languages to everyone ? back in the day used to use clojure to write a fintech app but not sure if it is still relevant has uses vs other langs that have emerged

Clojure had lousy error messages, agents deal with this well. Clojure is capable of producing some of the most dense code I’ve ever seen, so manual code reviews really start to feel like a bottleneck unless your goal is to level up.
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