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The Age of Snarky UI

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Re: The Age of Snarky UI

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Post by chalmovsky »

elainanatario wrote: post #8
vegadw wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the author agrees, just that it's a phrasing problem

Author here! Yup exactly! I don't mind that it's telling me things (well, I do, but that's another post), I just want it to tell me _why_ instead of giving me a weak suggestion with no context so I can make a judgement on how to proceed. Feels like a passive aggressive mom telling you "Maybe try on another outfit" when what she really means is "I think your shirt is horrific and I can't be seen with you in it."

Hello! I really, really liked your article a lot and I'm happy I get to tell it to you! The drawings are just cherry on top.

I absolutely hate these types of UIs. I can't stress enough how much revulsion I feel towards this kind of bullshit.

And we are not even talking yet about the "screen vs buttons in a car" problem.

Re: The Age of Snarky UI

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Post by benj111 »

tpmoney wrote: post #9
mx7zysuj4xew wrote: post #6

Somewhere in the mid 2010s software developers stopped respecting its users. Instead of giving terse, succinct messages it was assumed the user was lazy with an iq below 80 and and needed to have friendly, patronizing responses

I think this is less about “respect” and more about the general change in business attitudes that happened over the 90s and the ability for software to be more verbose. On the attitude side, software development, developers and management shifted heavily from stodgy “IBM suits” to “renegade / hacker” teams. That shift showed in more than just dress codes, it showed in how software talked in general and in how compani…

Surely the poster child of the 90s for 'not IBM' was Google. And that worked because it removed things.

So yes, I agree somewhat, but I think it's more a corruption of that original ethos by said suits. But I suppose that's true of everything on the internet.

Re: The Age of Snarky UI

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Post by benj111 »

tpmoney wrote: post #10
mx7zysuj4xew wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish we lived in a world where driver attention system: irregular behavior - unexpected lane drift (possible driver fatigue or distraction)` Rather than Consider taking a break was the norm

Except that former message takes too long to read, especially if you’re actually driving at the time.

I had the unhappy experience of driving a car with collision warnings. I got 3 in one day. It would be nice after the fact to know what it thought was happening.

Re: The Age of Snarky UI

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Post by hulitu »

tpmoney wrote: post #9
mx7zysuj4xew wrote: post #6

Somewhere in the mid 2010s software developers stopped respecting its users. Instead of giving terse, succinct messages it was assumed the user was lazy with an iq below 80 and and needed to have friendly, patronizing responses

I think this is less about “respect” and more about the general change in business attitudes that happened over the 90s and the ability for software to be more verbose. On the attitude side, software development, developers and management shifted heavily from stodgy “IBM suits” to “renegade / hacker” teams. That shift showed in more than just dress codes, it showed in how software talked in general and in how compani…

> And more screen real estate, more dynamic software and more dynamic interfaces meant communication could be more verbose.

Could have been, but the opposite happened. Instead of changelogs, one has "bug fixes and performance improvements". Instead of KB686848 and KB7849867 one has "cummulative update"

Re: The Age of Snarky UI

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Post by vrighter »

chalmovsky wrote: post #11
elainanatario wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author here! Yup exactly! I don't mind that it's telling me things (well, I do, but that's another post), I just want it to tell me _why_ instead of giving me a weak suggestion with no context so I can make a judgement on how to proceed. Feels like a passive aggressive mom telling you "Maybe try on another outfit" when what she really means is "I think your shirt is horrific and I can't be seen with you in it."

Hello! I really, really liked your article a lot and I'm happy I get to tell it to you! The drawings are just cherry on top. I absolutely hate these types of UIs. I can't stress enough how much revulsion I feel towards this kind of bullshit. And we are not even talking yet about the "screen vs buttons in a car" problem.

what i really hate is the "remind me later" buttons. I want to say a plain "no" but the app won't let me. It promises not to respect my decision right there in the popup itself!
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