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US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Since voting is that power we say we have in the US. Does the public get to vote on this? If not... > Voting, we might even say, is the next to last refuge of the politically impotent. The last refuge is, of course, giving your opinion to a pollster - Neil Postman

The US is a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. You don't get to vote on specific federal policies, you vote on the people who vote for those policies.

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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What if the user is another machine? Sorry, my API won’t talk to another API unless it’s old enough to drink. How do we still have no people in government with basic computer literacy?

It's the opposite. This is for mass surveillance. Politicians love control and silencing anon Twitter critics.

How is all the tracking we have today not already sufficient for mass surveillance? What does age verification add if the goal is just more surveillance?

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I'm not sure who Josh Gottheimer of NJ is, but he seems to be one of those stealth "fake" Democrats. Too centrist to be a Republican, but also too centrist to be part of the DSA. He seems to also support H.R. 7540. I think the Democrats in his district need to seriously consider primarying him and replace him with someone that doesn't bend to foreign or corporate whims.

I really think left-right and honest-dishonest are useless dimensions to evaluate Congress members on. The job practically requires ideological fuzziness and truth stretching to get anything done. This is a feature: legislatures that require high ideological purity tend to become rubber stamps. DPRK is a good example.

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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Its going to be funny when there are married 17 year olds driving cars with guns and children but who can't install linux or access facebook without calling their dad. Why are so many bi-partisan bills so bad?

I don't think that's what this bill is about. I think they want to be able to attach a government issued ID to logins for various services. They tried claiming it was to fight terrorism, but that didn't really work so now they're saying "it's for the children!"

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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post #11
post #5

Since voting is that power we say we have in the US. Does the public get to vote on this? If not... > Voting, we might even say, is the next to last refuge of the politically impotent. The last refuge is, of course, giving your opinion to a pollster - Neil Postman

The US is a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. You don't get to vote on specific federal policies, you vote on the people who vote for those policies.

Mark Zuckerberg and such?

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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What is the age of a script that I wrote to be triggered by cron? What is the age of a script that my 10-year-old son wrote to be triggered in his dad's crontab?

If I do "sudo -l" to my son's account, what is the age of the user performing actions? If my son writes a set-user-ID program and I run it, what is the user's age now?

Re: US national level OS-level age verification bill proposed

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post #14
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the opposite. This is for mass surveillance. Politicians love control and silencing anon Twitter critics.

How is all the tracking we have today not already sufficient for mass surveillance? What does age verification add if the goal is just more surveillance?

All Internet users will be verified. No going online without a government issued id. It's not about verifying the age.
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