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Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Post by m463 »

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #12

Hah, I just bought the Q6. Seeing they released their design spec makes me much happier with the purchase!

I bought one too - most heavy and heavy duty keyboard I have ever owned.

I wanted to use it but it has one fatal flaw - the backlighting is unusable.

The keys it comes with are decent, but opaque, so the backlight doesn't actually illuminate the keys. And if you get shine-through keycaps, the LEDs are mounted below the center of the key instead of above, and you don't get good illumination.

sigh.

I used to use topre realforce rgb, then tried keychron, now use steelseries apex pro exclusively.

if they could fix it, giving me illuminated shine-through keys, I would go back to stay.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Post by chaosharmonic »

On the source-available piece:

I'm not saying I'm for those over open source licenses in general, but Prusa brought up some fair questions when discussing the OCL. Essentially: define "personal use." Have I violated a non-commercial license if I print this keyboard and then use it to build someone a website? Does CC-NC mean a Prusacaster -- or any guitar knob with such a license for that matter -- is strictly barred from being taken on tour? Or used to record albums that are then sold? (And I say "guitar" knob, but I'm choosing an example a little consciously that could exist in any variety of controls, instrument and otherwise.)

Where are the lines of that when it's physical things? How far downstream does that go if it isn't CC-NC-SA in particular?

I'm not really sure that Creative Commons had the idea of physical production in mind, given that it dates back to a time when we were more broadly talking about digital piracy, and I honestly haven't kept up with its evolution much in more recent years. But maybe it just doesn't make the same sense for designs of physical things, for comparable reasons to why it wouldn't make sense for code -- and, conversely, open source projects that opt to use CC licenses for assets.

(None of this would stop me from attempting to build/mod one for fun, mind you. It just raises what a more averse person might call risks, and what I will at least call curiosities.)

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Post by lamasery »

skrtskrt wrote: post #13

A Keychron has always been a great introduction for friends that want a good home desk setup without too much fuss. I have stuck with the System76 Launch keyboard but I basically always consider Keychron first when looking.

I'd consider another Keychron (my first mechanical since a couple of AT and PS/2 Model M and variant devices I had years and years ago) and I like some stuff about it and definitely like the price, but would look for a model with a few differences next time and probably skip Keychron if I couldn't get all of these fixed in one of their boards:

1 - Longer battery life (I have a bluetooth + plug-in model). The battery life is crazy-low, even when not in use and the lights are turned off. I keep it plugged in all the time, as a result. I don't really get why it can't last, idle, about as long as a game controller does (many weeks! And those don't have much space for batteries).

2 - No light pattern button. That thing exists only to accidentally hit and switch it away from "gently and evenly lit" which is one of the very-few non-insane patterns available. Brush it by accident, there goes a minute or so of your time getting it back to something that's not trying to look like a disco ball. And it's right on the corner, so you will hit it by accident when moving the keyboard around or reaching for something just past it. Easily my least-favorite thing about the board, despite how bad the next item is.

3 - Mine has a kind of tray-design around the edge, resulting in about a 1/8" lip, that looks very cheap to assemble (so that's nice, lower price) but means it collects EVERYTHING out of the air and is a pain in the ass to clean. It also makes it look kinda like someone's 3D printed hobby project. Like it's an ugly keyboard, both because of the design and because it's visibly collecting dust and hair just a few days after its last keys-removed full cleaning.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Post by burnt-resistor »

The only problems I have with the Q6 Max are:

- It's way, way too heavy. Heavier than my Northgate Omnikey Ultra. Like it's more adept as an improvised weapon as much as any keyboard ever was.

- Didn't come with all black enter and escape caps (they were red orange), requiring purchasing an expensive complete replacement set.

Minor areas for improvement:

~ Battery life could be better.

~ Charging takes a long time and I'm unsure if there's a charge finished indicator.

~ Would be nice to have an offline flash update & macro programmer to not depend on cloud-based software that will eventually evaporate like everything else.

I do like:

+ Replaceability of switches as I've tried a bunch, settling on Kailh Box White V2.

+ RGB effects can be turned off completely or show a solid color at low brightness.

+ Native USB proprietary wireless dongle, BT with 3 profiles, or wired.

+ Wired or wireless connection while charging.

+ PC vs. Mac layout as a physical switch.

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