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Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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Heroku has been going downhill ever since Salesforce bought them.

I think the downhill slide started when they introduced the "Private Space Peering". It is a wrapper on top of AWS VPC, but it was something like $1000 a month several years ago. It also was gating larger instances and other important features.

So few people used it. I guess this provided a negative signal to their management about the adoption rate of new features. And then everything eventually just died.

Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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I think its impossible for the Herokus and the digital oceans of the world to survive in the cloud world. They might be able to create better experience for customers but noone can match the networking that AWS, GCP and Azure can provide. Low latency will always win over better developer experience.

Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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post #14

I think its impossible for the Herokus and the digital oceans of the world to survive in the cloud world. They might be able to create better experience for customers but noone can match the networking that AWS, GCP and Azure can provide. Low latency will always win over better developer experience.

I've never found cloud anything to beat the speed (and price) of a well placed server.

DO has always been a bit rich for my blood though, and even a low cost hetzner VPS has less cores than I remember seeing at the same price a decade ago. I could be wrong there though I usually use Vultr for their SYD region.

Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strong disagree. They didn’t even invent buildpacks until 2011, the year after the acquisition.

Momentum??

If they still had momentum one year after acquisition, I think it's hard to say they have been going downhill

Maybe we could say they went uphill instead for a while? Or something

Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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post #14

I think its impossible for the Herokus and the digital oceans of the world to survive in the cloud world. They might be able to create better experience for customers but noone can match the networking that AWS, GCP and Azure can provide. Low latency will always win over better developer experience.

Heroku runs on AWS though, doesn’t it? They just package it.

I don’t think it’s impossible for them to survive. Salesforce bought them more than 10 years ago and did little to support growth of Heroku. And yet they’re still around and people still ask „is there something new with comparable customer experience?” because they don’t mind paying more

Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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post #17
post #14

I think its impossible for the Herokus and the digital oceans of the world to survive in the cloud world. They might be able to create better experience for customers but noone can match the networking that AWS, GCP and Azure can provide. Low latency will always win over better developer experience.

Heroku runs on AWS though, doesn’t it? They just package it. I don’t think it’s impossible for them to survive. Salesforce bought them more than 10 years ago and did little to support growth of Heroku. And yet they’re still around and people still ask „is there something new with comparable customer experience?” because they don’t mind paying more

Vercel is the chosen replacement, I believe.

Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heroku runs on AWS though, doesn’t it? They just package it. I don’t think it’s impossible for them to survive. Salesforce bought them more than 10 years ago and did little to support growth of Heroku. And yet they’re still around and people still ask „is there something new with comparable customer experience?” because they don’t mind paying more

Vercel is the chosen replacement, I believe.

Vercel is basically just an AWS reseller too though

Re: Dear Heroku: Uhh What's Going On?

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post #14

I think its impossible for the Herokus and the digital oceans of the world to survive in the cloud world. They might be able to create better experience for customers but noone can match the networking that AWS, GCP and Azure can provide. Low latency will always win over better developer experience.

I've never found cloud anything to beat the speed (and price) of a well placed server. DO has always been a bit rich for my blood though, and even a low cost hetzner VPS has less cores than I remember seeing at the same price a decade ago. I could be wrong there though I usually use Vultr for their SYD region.

> has less cores than I remember seeing at the same price a decade ago

Less cores but probably 5x more performance per core now.

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