Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
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Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#12AI generated music has started to ruin most music on YouTube for me. My feed is starting to get crammed with artists and DJ sets of things like "1 Hour of Cowboy Western Songs to Listen to While Traveling Through the Frontier". Is it real music? Probably not because the thumbnail is plastered with Pepe memes and other rubbish. We starting to get to the point where music is like Low-background steel - as in it existed…
I have no clue why you were getting voted down, but I agree. AI generated music isn't art. There's no soul in that, no experience.
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#13AI generated music has started to ruin most music on YouTube for me. My feed is starting to get crammed with artists and DJ sets of things like "1 Hour of Cowboy Western Songs to Listen to While Traveling Through the Frontier". Is it real music? Probably not because the thumbnail is plastered with Pepe memes and other rubbish. We starting to get to the point where music is like Low-background steel - as in it existed…
Opposing viewpoint: discovered AI music without even realising it was AI, and now pleased with getting effectively infinite free entertainment. Just like human-made music, there's a lot of bad and mediocre, but occasionally great music. It's not like humans were creating in a void either --- everything is a derivative work.
The bottleneck has not been the amount of music. You had effectively infinite music before
So, when you have infinite music, you then have to look to qualitative differentiating factors. Like, say, the artist themselves. And if they're AI.
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#14AI generated music has started to ruin most music on YouTube for me. My feed is starting to get crammed with artists and DJ sets of things like "1 Hour of Cowboy Western Songs to Listen to While Traveling Through the Frontier". Is it real music? Probably not because the thumbnail is plastered with Pepe memes and other rubbish. We starting to get to the point where music is like Low-background steel - as in it existed…
Opposing viewpoint: discovered AI music without even realising it was AI, and now pleased with getting effectively infinite free entertainment. Just like human-made music, there's a lot of bad and mediocre, but occasionally great music. It's not like humans were creating in a void either --- everything is a derivative work.
I can't imagine music as just its surface product. It would feel so much emptier without the added subtext of the artist and creation.
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#15AI-generated content should have the same amount of copyright as prompt texts. You can't claim copyright for the text "Rock music with angry vocals and 160 bpm with a guitar solo". But I think training models using copyrighted content is stealing in the first place. It's not fair use, so it should be banned entirely.
I have great news for you.
It has even less copyright. A prompt text you write, if sufficiently creative enough, is copyrighted. The output of an AI, no matter how “creative”, is always pubic domain.
https://sciactive.com/human-contribution-policy/#More-Inform...
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#16YouTube is not an innocent party in this new fraudulent ecosystem. It was literally built on piracy.
Youtube is one of the best platforms in this regard - it is possible that they react. Good luck with FB, Instagram or TikTok.
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#17AI generated music has started to ruin most music on YouTube for me. My feed is starting to get crammed with artists and DJ sets of things like "1 Hour of Cowboy Western Songs to Listen to While Traveling Through the Frontier". Is it real music? Probably not because the thumbnail is plastered with Pepe memes and other rubbish. We starting to get to the point where music is like Low-background steel - as in it existed…
Opposing viewpoint: discovered AI music without even realising it was AI, and now pleased with getting effectively infinite free entertainment. Just like human-made music, there's a lot of bad and mediocre, but occasionally great music. It's not like humans were creating in a void either --- everything is a derivative work.
Legitimately curious, do you have some examples of great AI music ?
After getting bombarded with it in public spaces (namely cafés), I’ve come to see it as a worse copyright-free replacement for muzak. I’ve even subconsciously begun avoiding these places. When my brain randomly decides it wants to pay attention to the music, the whole shtick sounds grating in an uncanny valley kind of way that’s almost impossible to un-hear.
Trying Lyria 2 after that ordeal might’ve also amplified my bias against it, as everything I prompted ended up sounding like a robotic top 50 pastiche.
Maybe there’s a parallel to made with LLM prose here ?
(disclaimer: while not a musician I do enjoy listening to human-made less-mainstream music)
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#18AI-generated content should have the same amount of copyright as prompt texts. You can't claim copyright for the text "Rock music with angry vocals and 160 bpm with a guitar solo". But I think training models using copyrighted content is stealing in the first place. It's not fair use, so it should be banned entirely.
I have great news for you. It has even less copyright. A prompt text you write, if sufficiently creative enough, is copyrighted. The output of an AI, no matter how “creative”, is always pubic domain. https://sciactive.com/human-contribution-policy/#More-Inform...
pubic domain.
Only certain types of AI output.
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Opposing viewpoint: discovered AI music without even realising it was AI, and now pleased with getting effectively infinite free entertainment. Just like human-made music, there's a lot of bad and mediocre, but occasionally great music. It's not like humans were creating in a void either --- everything is a derivative work.
Legitimately curious, do you have some examples of great AI music ? After getting bombarded with it in public spaces (namely cafés), I’ve come to see it as a worse copyright-free replacement for muzak. I’ve even subconsciously begun avoiding these places. When my brain randomly decides it wants to pay attention to the music, the whole shtick sounds grating in an uncanny valley kind of way that’s almost impossible to…
I thought this one was pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr3Pz_a0oIs
Re: Musician says AI company is cloning her music, filing claims against her
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Legitimately curious, do you have some examples of great AI music ? After getting bombarded with it in public spaces (namely cafés), I’ve come to see it as a worse copyright-free replacement for muzak. I’ve even subconsciously begun avoiding these places. When my brain randomly decides it wants to pay attention to the music, the whole shtick sounds grating in an uncanny valley kind of way that’s almost impossible to…
I thought this one was pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr3Pz_a0oIs
I don’t think it holds up beyond passive listening for me, the violins sound quite off and break the illusion from the get go. But different strokes for different folks