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US forces locate and evacuate downed airman in Iran

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Re: US forces locate and evacuate downed airman in Iran

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An interesting perspective I see all over X and reddit is calling these people heroes, but only once the rescue happened. The more tame responses simply state that they are happy everyone was rescued and no military was harmed. Why? Those pilots were flying over Iran illegally, presumably to inflict fatal harm on whichever targets.

Conversely I find it strange how many people seem to want US servicemen to come to harm because it would validate their political views.

Re: US forces locate and evacuate downed airman in Iran

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An interesting perspective I see all over X and reddit is calling these people heroes, but only once the rescue happened. The more tame responses simply state that they are happy everyone was rescued and no military was harmed. Why? Those pilots were flying over Iran illegally, presumably to inflict fatal harm on whichever targets.

Conversely I find it strange how many people seem to want US servicemen to come to harm because it would validate their political views.

It's simple "us vs them". I see nothing wrong about it.

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Conversely I find it strange how many people seem to want US servicemen to come to harm because it would validate their political views.

It's simple "us vs them". I see nothing wrong about it.

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Re: US forces locate and evacuate downed airman in Iran

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It's simple "us vs them". I see nothing wrong about it.

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> a country that lobs cluster munitions

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/11/1186949348/us-cluster-munitio...

> and YOLO fires missiles at its neighbours

Perfidy in international waters? Double tap kill strikes on fishing boats?

So far, Pot meet Kettle.

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> a country that lobs cluster munitions https://www.npr.org/2023/07/11/1186949348/us-cluster-munitio... > and YOLO fires missiles at its neighbours Perfidy in international waters? Double tap kill strikes on fishing boats? So far, Pot meet Kettle.

I'm not claiming the US is "good"! I'm saying I would prefer a world where IRGC doesn't have long range nuclear weapons.

Re: US forces locate and evacuate downed airman in Iran

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An interesting perspective I see all over X and reddit is calling these people heroes, but only once the rescue happened. The more tame responses simply state that they are happy everyone was rescued and no military was harmed. Why? Those pilots were flying over Iran illegally, presumably to inflict fatal harm on whichever targets.

Conversely I find it strange how many people seem to want US servicemen to come to harm because it would validate their political views.

My political views are pretty simplistic: whoever initiates violence is the bad guy.

That's problematic here, because neither the US nor Iran are strangers to initiating violence. So a further refinement is necessary, based on a principle that I haven't had to fall back on very often: whoever initiates violence during negotiations is the bad guy.

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Conversely I find it strange how many people seem to want US servicemen to come to harm because it would validate their political views.

My political views are pretty simplistic: whoever initiates violence is the bad guy. That's problematic here, because neither the US nor Iran are strangers to initiating violence. So a further refinement is necessary, based on a principle that I haven't had to fall back on very often: whoever initiates violence during negotiations is the bad guy.

Four out of Five Eyes agree.

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It's simple "us vs them". I see nothing wrong about it.

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What are those objectives? Can they be achieved by dropping bombs from the sky?

The US, and the rest of the world, are still waiting to know the answer to the first. Why was this war on a whim needed now? What was so imminent that the ongoing negotiations could not have continued?

The second answer is a definitive no, it's never been except for that one time that ended of WW2 when no one else had nukes.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conversely I find it strange how many people seem to want US servicemen to come to harm because it would validate their political views.

My political views are pretty simplistic: whoever initiates violence is the bad guy. That's problematic here, because neither the US nor Iran are strangers to initiating violence. So a further refinement is necessary, based on a principle that I haven't had to fall back on very often: whoever initiates violence during negotiations is the bad guy.

not just negotiations, but also a ceasefire after the 12 day war
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