So what will happen now? Who will take over? Abandoning a project because 1 person is kinda extreme.
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#12I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
> Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
Some people are just mean. They spend their angry little lives walking around "outraged" by any minor inconvenience. They assume every single little happenstance was designed to make them miserable.
The greatest thing about having a good education and working with other experts is that I generally don't meet this people that much, but I remember them all too well.
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#13Genuine question: Why not just close such derailing and burdensome issues and/or block mean people?
My guess: People would freak out if FOSS maintainers actually did this.
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#14I get anxiety publishing open source because of things like this.
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#15I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
I've built many successful services by listening to entitled users so much that I used to talk with such entitled users all day.
They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right.
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#16This is a bane of all such aggregator libraries, that suck maintetance from other projects into themself. Null-ls suffered from this, too: https://github.com/jose-elias-alvarez/null-ls.nvim/issues/16...
The source of a library needs an update every time there is a configuration change in _any_ tree-sitter parser supported.
The only sustainable option is not use these helpers and manage editor dependencies manually: tree-sitter parsers, LSP servers (looking at you Mason), and plugins (looking at you neovim distros).
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#17The Fandom Menace strikes again.
But seriously, this is messed up. People need to learn to treat others with respect and kindness. Hopefully the maintainer is able to simply move on after archiving the repo, and isn't dealing with any mental struggles from dealing with years of entitled users demanding things for free.
In popular open source projects this is a recurring issue. I suspect the only way to deal with it is to either shift to a platform that has better tools for moderation, or end the project like the maintainer has done. Let someone else fork it and deal with the users.
To clason: Thank you for all the work you did maintaining nvim-treesitter!
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#18I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
I've built many successful services by listening to entitled users so much that I used to talk with such entitled users all day. They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right.
> They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right.
No, this is not adequate justification for such behavior towards volunteer FOSS maintainers.
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#19I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
Easiest people to understand: someone hurt you (in this case disrupted your workflow, especially if pointlessly like this user thinks), you express the dissatisfaction to the person who did.
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#20I will never understand people like GitHub user “shushtain” in the linked issue. So obviously the guy is behaving like an entitled jerk, but it’s also surely counter-productive (volunteer maintainers are unlikely to respond well to plain rudeness)? Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean?
> Unless the goal isn’t a productive outcome, but just to be mean? Some people are just mean. They spend their angry little lives walking around "outraged" by any minor inconvenience. They assume every single little happenstance was designed to make them miserable. The greatest thing about having a good education and working with other experts is that I generally don't meet this people that much, but I remember them…
Agreed. However, I often wonder if people like that are deliberately (or inadvertently) being a psyop seeking to burn out people ala how "Jia Tan" tried to become maintainer of xz [0].