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Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
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Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#12I believe this is fake. Iran repeatedly claims to have struck targets, without evidence to back it up. The Dubai government denies this strike happened https://gulfnews.com/uae/dubai-denies-reports-of-an-irgc-att... And the Oracle live status report webpage says everything is online, and there are no active incidents in Dubai. The history page reports no incidents in Dubai since the start of the conflict. https://oci…
It's also a warcrime, of course. I wonder if, if they lied, is it still a warcrime? I would expect it is. I guess we'll see what the consequences are to warcrimes. Massive worldwide demonstrations in favor of the people committing warcrimes, like usually?
Datacenters aren't categorized for warcrimes. Desalination plants, water treatment plants, power plants, etc. would be highly significant for millions of the population.
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#13I believe this is fake. Iran repeatedly claims to have struck targets, without evidence to back it up. The Dubai government denies this strike happened https://gulfnews.com/uae/dubai-denies-reports-of-an-irgc-att... And the Oracle live status report webpage says everything is online, and there are no active incidents in Dubai. The history page reports no incidents in Dubai since the start of the conflict. https://oci…
It's also a warcrime, of course. I wonder if, if they lied, is it still a warcrime? I would expect it is. I guess we'll see what the consequences are to warcrimes. Massive worldwide demonstrations in favor of the people committing warcrimes, like usually?
Outside of the countries involved, Is it really a war crime though?
If Oracle's providing services to your enemy's army aren't they a "legitimate" target just like a tank factory?
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#14I believe this is fake. Iran repeatedly claims to have struck targets, without evidence to back it up. The Dubai government denies this strike happened https://gulfnews.com/uae/dubai-denies-reports-of-an-irgc-att... And the Oracle live status report webpage says everything is online, and there are no active incidents in Dubai. The history page reports no incidents in Dubai since the start of the conflict. https://oci…
So it's down to a contest of whether to trust the government of Iran, or a cloud vendor status page? Maybe we can check something hosted in Oracle Cloud as the tiebreaker?
No, most likely Iran actually launched missiles targeted at the Oracle datacenter, but they were intercepted. The UAE successfully intercepts about 90% of incoming Iranian drones and missiles.
Then Iran then claims the attack was successful for domestic propaganda purposes, and since there is no internet in Iran, nobody can verify if it was actually successful.
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also a warcrime, of course. I wonder if, if they lied, is it still a warcrime? I would expect it is. I guess we'll see what the consequences are to warcrimes. Massive worldwide demonstrations in favor of the people committing warcrimes, like usually?
What motivation would Iran have to not commit war crimes? It's not as if the US and Israel are restraining themselves from committing war crimes. Certainly the UN isn't going to step in and do anything. This war started with the US committing a war crime (blowing up a girl's school).
...what? What does the UN have to do with war crimes lol. And why would the US care about war crimes we literally aren't signatory to the Rome statute. how could your comment get so many things wrong in so little text.
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#16I believe this is fake. Iran repeatedly claims to have struck targets, without evidence to back it up. The Dubai government denies this strike happened https://gulfnews.com/uae/dubai-denies-reports-of-an-irgc-att... And the Oracle live status report webpage says everything is online, and there are no active incidents in Dubai. The history page reports no incidents in Dubai since the start of the conflict. https://oci…
> The Dubai government denies this strike happened
In the UAE it's illegal to talk about the strikes, or post videos of them online. $55,000+ fine and 2+ years in prison. Over 100 people have already been arrested.
When the two different governments said contradictory things, in other situations a journalist would arrange for a local correspondent to head over to the Oracle building and see if it's visibly damaged, maybe get some photos.
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
What motivation would Iran have to not commit war crimes? It's not as if the US and Israel are restraining themselves from committing war crimes. Certainly the UN isn't going to step in and do anything. This war started with the US committing a war crime (blowing up a girl's school).
...what? What does the UN have to do with war crimes lol. And why would the US care about war crimes we literally aren't signatory to the Rome statute. how could your comment get so many things wrong in so little text.
war crimes don't have anything to do with Rome, Rome is only about prosecution by ICC
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also a warcrime, of course. I wonder if, if they lied, is it still a warcrime? I would expect it is. I guess we'll see what the consequences are to warcrimes. Massive worldwide demonstrations in favor of the people committing warcrimes, like usually?
Outside of the countries involved, Is it really a war crime though? If Oracle's providing services to your enemy's army aren't they a "legitimate" target just like a tank factory?
“Israel and the powerful American lobby” don't sign the guestbook when they speak behind closed doors planning the Occupied Territories Cancer in the U.S. Congress and Senate, Gaza.
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#19I believe this is fake. Iran repeatedly claims to have struck targets, without evidence to back it up. The Dubai government denies this strike happened https://gulfnews.com/uae/dubai-denies-reports-of-an-irgc-att... And the Oracle live status report webpage says everything is online, and there are no active incidents in Dubai. The history page reports no incidents in Dubai since the start of the conflict. https://oci…
It's also a warcrime, of course. I wonder if, if they lied, is it still a warcrime? I would expect it is. I guess we'll see what the consequences are to warcrimes. Massive worldwide demonstrations in favor of the people committing warcrimes, like usually?
Are there any military personnel working at the Oracle Facility? Big Tech is very much used in this War so not a stretch to imagine military personnel working there.
Apparently the hotels that were struck in Dubai etc were attacked because US military personnel were working remotely there due to US bases being damaged.
Re: Iran Says It Hit Oracle Facilities in UAE
#20I believe this is fake. Iran repeatedly claims to have struck targets, without evidence to back it up. The Dubai government denies this strike happened https://gulfnews.com/uae/dubai-denies-reports-of-an-irgc-att... And the Oracle live status report webpage says everything is online, and there are no active incidents in Dubai. The history page reports no incidents in Dubai since the start of the conflict. https://oci…
> The Dubai government denies this strike happened In the UAE it's illegal to talk about the strikes, or post videos of them online. $55,000+ fine and 2+ years in prison. Over 100 people have already been arrested. When the two different governments said contradictory things, in other situations a journalist would arrange for a local correspondent to head over to the Oracle building and see if it's visibly damaged, m…
It's interesting, because I initially thought these restrictions in UAE were strictly because of operational security. That is why Israel and Ukraine, for example, also forbid posting images of missile impacts: it provides valuable targeting information to the enemy. In Israel the legal framework is military censorship; in Ukraine it's martial law. Enforcement against individuals is strong in Ukraine, and more selective in Israel - presumably because Ukraine has a bigger internal infiltration problem, or perhaps because Israelis are more disciplined or have more effective social pressure?
In any case, in turns out I was mistaken: apparently in UAE the wave of arrests are not framed as operational security, but a wider ban on information that could "spread misinformation", "cause panic", "affect national security", or "damage reputation". So it's a wider legal framework with more complicated implications - less of a no-brainer than I initially thought!