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We will all work for AGI

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Re: We will all work for AGI

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The core idea of ASI arriving before AGI seems to be true: we have already seen that through Chess Programs, LLMs etc. However what caught my eye and that to me does reflect the lens through which the author sees the world, unless I am completely misunderstanding their point: "Most of the world's important problems have never been modelled at the precision AI requires to act on them. Pollution, traffic, healthcare, t…

The irony is that I think the author may have meant granularity, not precision. You could have the highest precision model (not the AI type) of any given topic or domain and not only be totally inaccurate, but being categorically flawed, i.e., you’re not even shooting at the right target.

From his statement it seems what he is really saying though is that it is the granularity of data is insufficient for an AI model to accurately or precisely evaluate a problem and then presumably solve it, assuming there is, let alone a human-acceptable solution.

As I mentioned, you can have the most precisely modeled problem in the world and it won’t make a difference if it’s not accurate, especially since there is a very uncomfortable reality starting to face us, at least in the West, that all the little lies we were told and we perpetuated because we have been trained on them from birth, across generations now, are simply wrong and have polluted our minds to such a degree that many people could never accept if AI told them they’re wrong and everything they believe they know and have known all their life is wrong.

On top of that, it shatters people’s narcissistic self-image of having been the good guy, because accepting what AI tells them is actually the truth means accepting that they were abusive to those who were right all along, meaning they are actually the bad guy.

And if we definitely know anything as good guys, it’s that the majority is always right, because that is what we were taught is the democratic way. The majority is always right and you always have to trust the minority that are experts unless it’s a majority of experts, then you have to trust them too, especially if they are beholden to the minority ruling class! Right? Right!

Re: We will all work for AGI

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I love the water/ice metaphor, but the author tends to completely ignore the physical world. Example with cardiologist - we all know what happened to the radiologist prediction. Example with defence (or war) becoming mostly a case of having a better AI model: well, try to win without a solid, distributed production capabilities, energy access and safe supply chains, in a geographical disadvantage. Embodiment is coming, but it will require moving a lot of atoms. Also, even in text heavy domains, a lot of knowledge is not written down, often of purpose (especially in legal), and that's the juicy part...

Re: We will all work for AGI

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There might be a really good conclusion in this article but I had to give up halfway through. The LLM-writing chapter after chapter is unbearable, full of short sentences leading into paragraphs that read like LinkedIn posts. > AlphaFold solved protein structure prediction, a fifty-year problem, not in decades but in a fraction of the time traditional research would have required. Not by thinking like a biologist. By…

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Re: We will all work for AGI

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post #4

Fascinating article. Everyone knows they will be replaced by AI but nobody wants to talk about it.

Worse are the folks claiming how much productive they are with AI tools, without understanding that it means companies will require less of us to do the same job. Like in many scenarios, they always think the victims will be the other ones.

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Re: We will all work for AGI

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post #6

The core idea of ASI arriving before AGI seems to be true: we have already seen that through Chess Programs, LLMs etc. However what caught my eye and that to me does reflect the lens through which the author sees the world, unless I am completely misunderstanding their point: "Most of the world's important problems have never been modelled at the precision AI requires to act on them. Pollution, traffic, healthcare, t…

> For example, we have known about human caused climate change for decades and carbon emissions are just hitting their peak now

And for the first few decades, human caused climate change was not even contested - then, when something started to be done about it, fossil fuel lobbies started channeling vast amounts of money to politicians and the media, and suddenly the issue became politicized and right-wing governments started rolling back regulations in the name of "competitiveness" (i.e. race to the bottom). So, in the next years, I'm afraid it could be considered a success if the rate of increase of carbon emissions actually continued slowing down instead of accelerating again...

Re: We will all work for AGI

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Fascinating article. Everyone knows they will be replaced by AI but nobody wants to talk about it.

Physical therapists will be replaced by AI?

Kindergarten teachers will be replaced by AI?

Politicians will be replaced by AI? (they could, they will just never allow it to happen)

Re: We will all work for AGI

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AGI will earn a salary, pay taxes, buy goods? So this is: maximizing for efficiency and production, but who will buy all this? Maybe pushing all possible to AI / AGI will end in a global deep recession or worse, seems the course is under the eyes of us all.

Re: We will all work for AGI

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"She is also one person, available to perhaps fifteen clients a day, charging accordingly."

Sounds like this pays nothing.

Are we all to be in charge of billion dollar companies with no employees? Just sitting around thinking?

I have an alternate future in mind where that happens to a relatively few people and then the guillotines come out.

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