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Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by switchbak »

mikecarlton wrote: post #4

Another alternative, earlier on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47420619

Thus far I've tried that (rejected), Floci (not great), and now looking at this.

This one is 7 days old.

I'm eager to have a localstack replacement, but these are a long way off from being mature enough. I suppose this is just the new state of software? Shiny website, big claims, AI coded, insufficiently tested.

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by nnucera »

staticassertion wrote: post #6

I really don't see how any clone is going to manage to do what localstack couldn't - maintain compatibility with tons of AWS services while not getting paid for it. If this were viable, why would it not have worked before? The only things I can think of are that perhaps LocalStack was just a mess of a codebase that couldn't maintain velocity or attract contributors, or it just failed to steward new contributors or so…

Hello! We won't have the broad coverage that Localstack has... we're not aiming to be the "next Localstack"... just want to keep the core services that were available for free in the LS community up to date. If you’re looking for larger services like MWAA, sorry, but we won't be supporting them.... Most core AWS services don't receive many updates anyway (their APIs don’t change drastically or frequently)

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by [deleted] »

staticassertion wrote: post #6

I really don't see how any clone is going to manage to do what localstack couldn't - maintain compatibility with tons of AWS services while not getting paid for it. If this were viable, why would it not have worked before? The only things I can think of are that perhaps LocalStack was just a mess of a codebase that couldn't maintain velocity or attract contributors, or it just failed to steward new contributors or so…

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Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by yieldcrv »

4m1rk wrote: post #10
staticassertion wrote: post #6

I really don't see how any clone is going to manage to do what localstack couldn't - maintain compatibility with tons of AWS services while not getting paid for it. If this were viable, why would it not have worked before? The only things I can think of are that perhaps LocalStack was just a mess of a codebase that couldn't maintain velocity or attract contributors, or it just failed to steward new contributors or so…

I suppose (among many other things) LLMs are changing this. We no longer need that many contributors when we can use AWS docs, intercept AWS API calls and give it to AI agent to mimic. Of course, contributors are still needed for maintaining tests and validations.

and then the maintainer goes on a rant about accurate but agentically coded pull requests and doesn’t merge it

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by mikeocool »

staticassertion wrote: post #6

I really don't see how any clone is going to manage to do what localstack couldn't - maintain compatibility with tons of AWS services while not getting paid for it. If this were viable, why would it not have worked before? The only things I can think of are that perhaps LocalStack was just a mess of a codebase that couldn't maintain velocity or attract contributors, or it just failed to steward new contributors or so…

Personally, I would get value out of really solid compatibility of the base features of a few core services (sqs, s3, kms, and maybe dynamo are the main ones that come to mind) with a light weight gui interface and persistence.

If I’m getting into esoteric features or some “big” features that don’t make sense locally, then I just spin up a real dev account of aws, so I know I’m getting the real experience.

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by thegagne »

switchbak wrote: post #12
mikecarlton wrote: post #4

Another alternative, earlier on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47420619

Thus far I've tried that (rejected), Floci (not great), and now looking at this. This one is 7 days old. I'm eager to have a localstack replacement, but these are a long way off from being mature enough. I suppose this is just the new state of software? Shiny website, big claims, AI coded, insufficiently tested.

Out of curiosity, why did you reject Floci? It lacked some feature I needed, so I just went ahead and added them. My needs were not that complex and it has patterns to test that implementations match AWS. I agree it’s lacking things, but the bones aren’t that bad.

Re: MiniStack (replacement for LocalStack)

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Post by petcat »

mikeocool wrote: post #17
staticassertion wrote: post #6

I really don't see how any clone is going to manage to do what localstack couldn't - maintain compatibility with tons of AWS services while not getting paid for it. If this were viable, why would it not have worked before? The only things I can think of are that perhaps LocalStack was just a mess of a codebase that couldn't maintain velocity or attract contributors, or it just failed to steward new contributors or so…

Personally, I would get value out of really solid compatibility of the base features of a few core services (sqs, s3, kms, and maybe dynamo are the main ones that come to mind) with a light weight gui interface and persistence. If I’m getting into esoteric features or some “big” features that don’t make sense locally, then I just spin up a real dev account of aws, so I know I’m getting the real experience.

> getting into esoteric features

The problem is that everybody needs different "core" features

> > compatibility of the base features of a few core services (sqs, s3, kms, and maybe dynamo are the main ones that come to mind)

For instance, I don't care about any of those features at all. But I would care a lot about EC2, RDS, and ElastiCache Redis

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