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Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by recursive »

josteink wrote: post #8
rdevilla wrote: post #4

It's over. The internet culture of the 20th and early 21st century has been appropriated for profit.

We built it on enthusiasm for enthusiasts and for that reason alone, it became something great. Then they stole it all for profit. Probably not the first time in history this has happened.

And hopefully not the last

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by izzydata »

josteink wrote: post #8
rdevilla wrote: post #4

It's over. The internet culture of the 20th and early 21st century has been appropriated for profit.

We built it on enthusiasm for enthusiasts and for that reason alone, it became something great. Then they stole it all for profit. Probably not the first time in history this has happened.

The amounts of times someone invented something that was important to them and then never make any money from it only for some other entity to make tons of money from it is way too high.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by rdevilla »

thesuitonym wrote: post #12
rdevilla wrote: post #4

It's over. The internet culture of the 20th and early 21st century has been appropriated for profit.

No it's not, and no it hasn't. That old Internet is still there, you just stopped going to it.

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Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by john_strinlai »

for what it is worth, when downloading the latest .exe from github, firefox says "this file is not commonly downloaded" and i have to select "allow download".

scans of it are fine.

probably just a heuristic-based false-positive, and not a news-worthy story of chrome abusing their monopoly or whatever.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by waffletower »

schiffern wrote: post #9
ompogUe wrote: post #2

So, Google's browser says downloading a tool to download files from Google's servers is "Suspicious"? Not surprising.

By the same standard, Chrome itself is "a tool to download files from Google's servers." Chrome doesn't only download from Google's servers, but the same thing applies to yt-dlp. I'm equally not "surprised" by their bad behavior, but that shouldn't stop us from condemning Google for unethically misleading people and engaging in browser monopoly abuse. --- EDIT: holding up (hilariously) RIAA lawyers as ethical role mo…

I am sure that RIAA lawyers would rofl at this yt-dlp labelling being an example of Google "... unethically misleading people and (committing) browser monopoly abuse". I want to live in that fantasy world with you though.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by dryarzeg »

schiffern wrote: post #9
ompogUe wrote: post #2

So, Google's browser says downloading a tool to download files from Google's servers is "Suspicious"? Not surprising.

By the same standard, Chrome itself is "a tool to download files from Google's servers." Chrome doesn't only download from Google's servers, but the same thing applies to yt-dlp. I'm equally not "surprised" by their bad behavior, but that shouldn't stop us from condemning Google for unethically misleading people and engaging in browser monopoly abuse. --- EDIT: holding up (hilariously) RIAA lawyers as ethical role mo…

> Chrome itself is "a tool to download files from Google's servers."

...legitimately. While Google (I will reinforce: Google, not everyone) sees downloading of the videos and other content from the YouTube by third-party services as illegitimate because of YouTube's ToS. After all, they're making money from the YouTube Premium and "Download" option provided by it, so things like that are kinda expected to happen.

And no, I don't agree that it's right. While I can understand the position of Google, the method they (allegedly) used here... Well... I don't even know what to say. That's plainly wrong, in my opinion. After all, "download" is defined as "To transfer (data or a program) from a central computer or website to a peripheral computer or device." by The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language (5th Edition), so when you just watch videos, you download them already, don't you? What about watching them in browser, somewhere in embed on some website? Does that constitute a legitimate client (I guess so, because most of embeds still use YouTube Player after all)? That just makes me laugh : )

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by throwaway_19sz »

rdevilla wrote: post #14
thesuitonym wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's not, and no it hasn't. That old Internet is still there, you just stopped going to it.

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You are not under attack. It’s just someone disagreeing with you. Please keep things civil.

Re: Tell HN: Chrome says "suspicious download" when trying to download yt-dlp

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Post by iririririr »

waffletower wrote: post #10

Chrome for work, Safari or Arc for everything else. I envy you if your use of yt-dlp is work related.

you almost got it rigth. safari and arc are as bad as chrome. arc is just stable-chrome (it will have the same nonsense with a custom ui next release)

firefox sadly is still what you should use.

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