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Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by renewiltord »

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #9
renewiltord wrote: post #5

Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls. > Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability "Sustainability" indeed.

Have you ever sent a donation to Alex?

Why would I donate to someone who is willing to sell my attention?

Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by jameshush »

Had the pleasure of working with Alex while at System1. Great guy. If I remember correctly I got one tiny change merged into Waterfox that's probably since been undone in the years since :-).

Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by renewiltord »

pedrogpimenta wrote: post #13
renewiltord wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I donate to someone who is willing to sell my attention?

Did you do it before they did so?

Looks like I judged them well in not doing so. I would have been such a sucker. After all, donating to corporations is for bootlickers.

https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-has-joined-system1/

So they’re just shilling their own search product on their own browser. No different from Google and Chrome. Except with some corporate bootlicking from running dog lackeys.

He literally sold it to an online advertising company lol.

EDIT: haha, the best defence of this guy you guys can muster is "If you don't pay me, I'll sell your data to online advertising companies" and that this is some kind of good thing.

Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by renewiltord »

chii wrote: post #8
renewiltord wrote: post #5

Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls. > Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability "Sustainability" indeed.

You either die an open source project, or live long enough to see yourself become ad-driven in the name of sustainability. Firefox has already done so to google, and when a fork is big enough, they certainly will hear the siren's call.

You’re right 100% The guy literally sold his browser to an online advertising company and then bought it back. Why do you think startpage is the default? Look up the online advertising company that owns it and then look up who he sold the browser to before taking it back.

Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by renewiltord »

kev009 wrote: post #6
renewiltord wrote: post #5

Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls. > Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability "Sustainability" indeed.

Did you read the same article as me? The word is singularly used in the context of how do you earn money as a project, i.e. sustain the effort. It's a bit of a leap to imply this is impure unless they made some contract stating the opposite or are doing something dark.

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Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by sersi »

renewiltord wrote: post #5

Everyone starts out pure but then the lucre calls. > Waterfox’s approach of allowing text ads on the default search partner page is our own decision for sustainability "Sustainability" indeed.

I mean first thing I do in any browser is change the search engine so it's not like it affects me in any way. I don't expect opensource projects to never make deals that give them some money, I just want them to be fully transparent when they do. Waterfox is transparent and clearly states who and how they sell their user data to.

Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by tommica »

The ads on default search partner is a fine compromise - reality is that projects need money, and if this helps them (and makes it less dependant on donations) then great! As long as the ad blocking happens elsewhere, it is fine.

I need to move back to waterfox again...

Re: 15 Years of Forking

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Post by ThrowawayTestr »

renewiltord wrote: post #14
pedrogpimenta wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you do it before they did so?

Looks like I judged them well in not doing so. I would have been such a sucker. After all, donating to corporations is for bootlickers. https://www.waterfox.com/blog/waterfox-has-joined-system1/ So they’re just shilling their own search product on their own browser. No different from Google and Chrome. Except with some corporate bootlicking from running dog lackeys. He literally sold it to an online advertising compa…

Maybe if you donated some money he wouldn't have had to.
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