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Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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This shit is why I don't visit China.

How about the US? What I'm going to write smells of "whataboutism", but it's tragic how more and more of the world is becoming police states. Going to the USA, they want your social media accounts. Regardless of that, the border thugs can probably demand you unlock your devices or they'll detain you for weeks on end, without any repercussions, because that sort of lawlessness is government policy now.

In the US, not disclosing a password is explicitly protected (5th amndmnt), SCOTUS has been clear. not so for biometrics, but so for PIN/passwd

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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The horrible bastion of despotism that is China-run Hong Kong has now caught up to the rule of law utopias of enlightened thought in the US and UK.

>in the US and UK

???

Of all the issues with the US justice system, being compelled to disclose passwords isn't one of them. It is an issue for UK, though.

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You're in a place called "Hacker" news, many of us hackers feel like we shouldn't be forced to unlock our private devices, not sure this is surprising.

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Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about the US? What I'm going to write smells of "whataboutism", but it's tragic how more and more of the world is becoming police states. Going to the USA, they want your social media accounts. Regardless of that, the border thugs can probably demand you unlock your devices or they'll detain you for weeks on end, without any repercussions, because that sort of lawlessness is government policy now.

In the US, not disclosing a password is explicitly protected (5th amndmnt), SCOTUS has been clear. not so for biometrics, but so for PIN/passwd

Haha, here's some random AI generated content:

    At least 225 judges have ruled in more than 700 cases that the administration's mandatory immigration detention policy likely violates the right to due process[1] The Fifth Amendment's Due Process Clause generally requires those having federal funds cut off to receive notice and an opportunity for a hearing, which was not provided in many of DOGE's spending freezes[2]
(there's more but what's the point)

1. https://www.justsecurity.org/107087/tracker-litigation-legal...

2. https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/many-trump-admi...

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about the US? What I'm going to write smells of "whataboutism", but it's tragic how more and more of the world is becoming police states. Going to the USA, they want your social media accounts. Regardless of that, the border thugs can probably demand you unlock your devices or they'll detain you for weeks on end, without any repercussions, because that sort of lawlessness is government policy now.

In the US, not disclosing a password is explicitly protected (5th amndmnt), SCOTUS has been clear. not so for biometrics, but so for PIN/passwd

Ah yes, the US government still respects the 5th amendment... like they respect the other amendments as well as the constitution.

The constitution doesn't say shooting citizens is illegal, right?

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're in a place called "Hacker" news, many of us hackers feel like we shouldn't be forced to unlock our private devices, not sure this is surprising.

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How is "against democracies" even on topic here? Parent commentator said HK is now like the UK, why it matter how much of a democracy either of the places are?

And no, it isn't a "nazi bar" just because someone disagrees with you, that's not how that label should be applied. Save it for actual nazis, otherwise you're doing the rest of us a huge disservice, as when there are actual nazis, people think we're talking opinions rather than facts. As a human who despise nazis and fascists, please don't contribute to making the world worse.

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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The horrible bastion of despotism that is China-run Hong Kong has now caught up to the rule of law utopias of enlightened thought in the US and UK.

in china was never a problem for police to detain you for any reason (or no reason) but HK has a different legal system
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