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Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer

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Re: Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer

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Post by geerlingguy »

checker659 wrote: post #10
password4321 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> duplicate discussion for the same link I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is incorrect per moderator dang at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43765252 : > On HN, dupeness is more a question of whether the underlying story is substantively the same or not I believe dang's most recent in-depth explanation can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 and you can search for more at htt…

But one is a press release from ARM and the other is a report from CNBC. How are the two the same? By your logic, there shouldn't be a gazillion posts about Apple Events the day it happens.

Apple usually announces like 3-5 new products, each in a distinct market / audience fit. Arm announced one product for one customer.

But sometimes two long discussions ensue on separate days for one event/product/announcement, if it's big enough. Often the discussions are merged later on. No big deal.

Re: Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer

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Post by password4321 »

checker659 wrote: post #10
password4321 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> duplicate discussion for the same link I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is incorrect per moderator dang at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43765252 : > On HN, dupeness is more a question of whether the underlying story is substantively the same or not I believe dang's most recent in-depth explanation can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815 and you can search for more at htt…

But one is a press release from ARM and the other is a report from CNBC. How are the two the same? By your logic, there shouldn't be a gazillion posts about Apple Events the day it happens.

It's not my logic, it's the logic of the moderator(s) of HN. Here's more, cut+paste from the link previously provided (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43738815):

> I agree—they're not all the same story. On the other hand: stories in an ongoing sequence usually lead to repetitive discussion, which is bad for HN

Re: Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer

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Post by drob518 »

This is going to be a strategic challenge for ARM unless they are going to focus on chips that nobody else wants to make. And given the AI focus, that doesn’t seem to be the case. I would think that the RISC-V folks would be salivating at the prospect of flipping some existing ARM licensees to RISC-V.

Re: Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer

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Post by mbreese »

geerlingguy wrote: post #11
checker659 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But one is a press release from ARM and the other is a report from CNBC. How are the two the same? By your logic, there shouldn't be a gazillion posts about Apple Events the day it happens.

Apple usually announces like 3-5 new products, each in a distinct market / audience fit. Arm announced one product for one customer. But sometimes two long discussions ensue on separate days for one event/product/announcement, if it's big enough. Often the discussions are merged later on. No big deal.

And even for big news events (which, this might qualify as), people can miss the first discussion. Even if the discussions end up merged later on, the different discussions can still be fruitful.

Which is why, even if it is a duplicate conversation, the mods generally allow things to play out organically. There's either going to be more discussion above, or people have already said their peace and we move on.

Re: Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer

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Post by rwmj »

daneel_w wrote: post #13

The Acorn Archimedes came with Acorn branded CPUs (the "ARM250" IIRC) already in the late 80s. I can't recall what company made the chips for ARM at that time, but in the later Archimedes models it was VLSI.

VLSI from the very start according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture_family#ARM1

Re: Arm releases first in-house chip, with Meta as debut customer

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Post by alain94040 »

mrbluecoat wrote: post #14

"in-house" is misleading > Like nearly all fabless AI chipmakers, Arm currently manufactures its CPU at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company ’s fabrication plants.

It's not misleading for people in the industry. ARM so far was selling IP (Verilog source code) that other chip makers would include in a full chip design.

Now ARM for the first time (this century) is making its own chip [design], which like most of its customers, is manufactured by a fab like TSMC.

The title is clear.

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