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USA bans all new routers for consumers

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Re: USA bans all new routers for consumers

#13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plan? Government control through "conditional approval" process and making it more costly to own a router than rent one from a consumer internet provider.

But....your ISP also has to procure a router from somewhere. Or are they just going to slap a sticker that says "verizon" on it and say it was made in the USA now?

They'll get a special government exemption, in return for accepting additional voluntary government oversight or some other under the table favour system.

Re: USA bans all new routers for consumers

#14
post #4

The ban also includes a 2027 cutoff date for security updates to any unapproved routers. Given the long replacement cycle on home routers, I think the bigger security risk will end up being the millions of people using routers with unpatched security vulnerabilities…

Feels like.. that's the point

Re: USA bans all new routers for consumers

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The plan? Government control through "conditional approval" process and making it more costly to own a router than rent one from a consumer internet provider.

But....your ISP also has to procure a router from somewhere. Or are they just going to slap a sticker that says "verizon" on it and say it was made in the USA now?

That's why there's a "conditional approval" process attached to this rule.

Re: USA bans all new routers for consumers

#16
I kind of wonder if we can also fix the "every device has internet access" problem.

All consumer routers let anything out. Your TV, your refrigerator, your microwave oven have unfettered access to the mothership - and data collectors/advertisers.

I think with 5g and 6g these devices might be getting other channels, and the two combined will just give us a huge proxy for the routers they are banning.

Re: USA bans all new routers for consumers

#17
post #16

I kind of wonder if we can also fix the "every device has internet access" problem. All consumer routers let anything out. Your TV, your refrigerator, your microwave oven have unfettered access to the mothership - and data collectors/advertisers. I think with 5g and 6g these devices might be getting other channels, and the two combined will just give us a huge proxy for the routers they are banning.

You said "also fix" but I'm not sure what preventing existing home routers from receiving security updates after 2027 fixes.

Re: USA bans all new routers for consumers

#18
post #4

The ban also includes a 2027 cutoff date for security updates to any unapproved routers. Given the long replacement cycle on home routers, I think the bigger security risk will end up being the millions of people using routers with unpatched security vulnerabilities…

This is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard

How come?

Re: USA bans all new routers for consumers

#19
post #16

I kind of wonder if we can also fix the "every device has internet access" problem. All consumer routers let anything out. Your TV, your refrigerator, your microwave oven have unfettered access to the mothership - and data collectors/advertisers. I think with 5g and 6g these devices might be getting other channels, and the two combined will just give us a huge proxy for the routers they are banning.

Do microwaves really have "smart" bs?
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