Seems like a pure virtue signaling: they don't sell or make hardware. It is mandated only for pre-installed operating systems, from what I understand.
They've partnered with Motorola to have it preinstalled on phones, this is in TFA.
GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
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Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Motorola will obviously have a problem with violating the law in several US states. Like, what's unclear here? Do you seriously say that corporations should just ignore laws which they don't like?
If shipping a specific device configuration to the US is illegal, Motorola should not ship this specific device configuration to the US. I do not think our parent is suggesting otherwise. AFAIK Motorola and GrapheneOS are not merging, they are getting into a partnership. They do not have to think or do exactly the same. Apple can comply with both CCP and US demands at the same time without a problem. I am sure Motoro…
Demanding that OSes outright violate the law because you disagree with your own elected government is pretty insane.
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
They've partnered with Motorola to have it preinstalled on phones, this is in TFA.
Could just ship it along on an SD card with a single button install you do yourself. Technically not preinstalled.
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#14I think that malicious compliance all the way might have been the better option here. If a birth date is all that is needed, let the user enter a random one. If actual biometric verification is needed alongside, let the user also paste the code to a fake biometric validator that always returns valid. It is the same philosophy as with an app that forcibly wants an invasive permission to the detriment of the user. Let…
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#15How's that gonna pan out with Motorola?
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#16How's that gonna pan out with Motorola?
If Motorola have a problem with it, they obviously aren't the right partner for Graphene. Graphene obviously won't want to partner with a company that immediately bends over backwards for this kind of puritanical nonsense.
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could just ship it along on an SD card with a single button install you do yourself. Technically not preinstalled.
I'm sure noone in the legal system of California would notice that trick!
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
If shipping a specific device configuration to the US is illegal, Motorola should not ship this specific device configuration to the US. I do not think our parent is suggesting otherwise. AFAIK Motorola and GrapheneOS are not merging, they are getting into a partnership. They do not have to think or do exactly the same. Apple can comply with both CCP and US demands at the same time without a problem. I am sure Motoro…
Motorola is pretty much only present in US these days, why would they build a product that can't be sold in their primary market? Demanding that OSes outright violate the law because you disagree with your own elected government is pretty insane.
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#19Seems like a pure virtue signaling: they don't sell or make hardware. It is mandated only for pre-installed operating systems, from what I understand.
Re: GrapheneOS refuses to comply with new age verification laws for operating system
#20Seems like a pure virtue signaling: they don't sell or make hardware. It is mandated only for pre-installed operating systems, from what I understand.
They've partnered with Motorola to have it preinstalled on phones, this is in TFA.