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Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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  “What’s up Outragers, just dialing in from my NBA team’s headquarters to yell at the people whose careers I’ve just pummeled,” Unterwurzacher wrote. Atlassian fired her a few days later, saying she had “engaged in acrimonious communications and ad hominem attacks against teammates and colleagues.”

  Unterwurzacher replied, “I think it’s difficult to point out the power imbalance in a way that is not potentially described by somebody as an ad hominem attack.”
Perhaps it is difficult, but it doesn't look like she was trying

Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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> “Employees disagreed in the chat, which resulted in Cannon-Brookes angrily interjecting to tell off the people who were complaining,” Puckett said in an opening statement at the hearing. On the company’s internal “Outrage Notification” Slack channel (a play on the “outage notifications” staff receive about technology issues), employees including Unterwurzacher mocked and condemned the comments from Cannon-Brookes,…

>There's no reality where that is acceptable...

Except the reality in which the criticism is well-deserved, obviously. That's subjective, of course, and I'm not commenting on whether it applies here, but "zero public outcry allowed, no matter what's happening" is an absurd position. Of course that doesn't mean you shouldn't expect consequences, even up to being fired by the tyrant in question, but that's not the same thing as "unacceptable". Employees aren't slaves.

Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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> I’m not sure why the labor board is involved here.

Not all jurisdictions respect freedom of association to the same degree.

Employment can be anywhere on a scale from a simple exchange of time for money, to something closer to a feudal lord/serf arrangement.

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I made this comment on the school side of the issue, but also referred to work.

According to the now discontinued CIA world factbook, the US is a "republic with strong leaning democratic ties", the 2 worst institutions in the USA are school and work.

Both are increasingly fascistic and authoritarian. Both are approved to exist at the approval of the federal and state governments. But both throw out due process, all Bill of Rights, and more.

But the monied elite? Oh yeah, their rights are preserved. They DO get all their rights.

Is the first amendment really 'Freedom of Speech', if you're saying it while living under and interstate overpass?

And before someone says "The first amendment only applies to government", remember all companies must get the approval of the same government. The government should apply the same rights to any prospective corporation, being an extension of government.

Re: Atlassian says it had right to fire engineer for suggesting CEO is 'rich jerk'

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Proving her point.

Apparently he hates the moniker the good people of Atlassian have bestowed on him. Actually, why he would hate being called out like this is baffling to me. It would appear he did everything in his power to earn it!
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