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Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

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Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

#11

If it's so bad for gamblers, why don't they stop? If gambling orgs do something that you know causes harm, why isn't the a legal sense of responsibility?

> If it's so bad for gamblers, why don't they stop?

That's not how addiction works.

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

#12

I've always found the marketing around gambling (and most things really) completely disgusting. As a society I think we're far too tolerant of these things. A lot of the ads basically go along the lines of: 'you could win big and have a great time, awesome! (disclaimer: will probably ruin your life)'. It should be like it is with smoking - photos of lung cancer patients on the package. People will still do it of cour…

south park alcohol commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Cg8klY9JI

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

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post #8

>“Although the findings relate to direct marketing, I see no reason why the same or similar adverse effects wouldn’t occur for gambling advertising on TV or social media.” Controlling/banning advertising for Alcohol and Tobacco results in significant health benefits. Sports gambling used to be illegal in many places or limited to specific places. Now that it's available in your pocket, like a pack of smokes or a flas…

It's everywhere on YouTube, usually as a 'hidden' ad in the alt-right manosphere (e.g. the recent Nick Shirley video he wears a sweatshirt for a gambling site throughout, with constant name drops of it that aren't over ads).

Disgusting behavior, especially coming from those who often claim their content is to improve things. Hypocrites across the board.

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

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post #2

Super shocking (sarcasm). Gamblers are the whales of that industry. The industry is well aware of that and well aware of how much harm they can cause. But their paychecks depend on not knowing so they choose not to. Same as pay-to-win freemium games. Find the whales and milk them for all you can. For every high-spender who can afford it they know full well the other 99 cannot. They know they are ruining some people's…

The worst thing is that gambling companies are free to ban you if you win too much.

So if you're still there it's just because you're being milked.

There's a a giant market for second hand accounts on betting websites for this very reason.

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

#15

If it's so bad for gamblers, why don't they stop? If gambling orgs do something that you know causes harm, why isn't the a legal sense of responsibility?

It was legal up til a few years ago. Take a guess why it's not now (or just read the news).

| If it's so bad for gamblers, why don't they stop?

If this is serious, lol. "Why are you addicted to X. Just stop, it's easy!"

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

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post #8

>“Although the findings relate to direct marketing, I see no reason why the same or similar adverse effects wouldn’t occur for gambling advertising on TV or social media.” Controlling/banning advertising for Alcohol and Tobacco results in significant health benefits. Sports gambling used to be illegal in many places or limited to specific places. Now that it's available in your pocket, like a pack of smokes or a flas…

It's everywhere on YouTube, usually as a 'hidden' ad in the alt-right manosphere (e.g. the recent Nick Shirley video he wears a sweatshirt for a gambling site throughout, with constant name drops of it that aren't over ads). Disgusting behavior, especially coming from those who often claim their content is to improve things. Hypocrites across the board.

I see Kalshi promoted on many sports highlights videos on YouTube.

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

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why can't we have a law that just caps your gambling losses? Everyone gets a federally issued gambling license tied to your ID, if you lose more than X amount the casino is no longer legally allowed to let you play. Casual gamblers can still enjoy, problem gamblers get cut off; just like with alcohol at the bar.

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

#18

I've always found the marketing around gambling (and most things really) completely disgusting. As a society I think we're far too tolerant of these things. A lot of the ads basically go along the lines of: 'you could win big and have a great time, awesome! (disclaimer: will probably ruin your life)'. It should be like it is with smoking - photos of lung cancer patients on the package. People will still do it of cour…

And gambling, same as prediction markets, has literally no positive social outcome.

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

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post #11

If it's so bad for gamblers, why don't they stop? If gambling orgs do something that you know causes harm, why isn't the a legal sense of responsibility?

> If it's so bad for gamblers, why don't they stop? That's not how addiction works.

I highly (and regularly) recommend reading Gabor Mate's "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts"

It's an enlightening read on addiction that will make you more empathetic for addicts of all types: gambling, substances, shopping, whatever.

Definitely worth a look if you find yourself asking "Why don't they just stop?"

https://www.amazon.com/Realm-Hungry-Ghosts-Encounters-Addict...

Re: Bombarding gamblers with offers greatly increases betting and gambling harm

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post #8

>“Although the findings relate to direct marketing, I see no reason why the same or similar adverse effects wouldn’t occur for gambling advertising on TV or social media.” Controlling/banning advertising for Alcohol and Tobacco results in significant health benefits. Sports gambling used to be illegal in many places or limited to specific places. Now that it's available in your pocket, like a pack of smokes or a flas…

The US Supreme Court made it illegal for states to ban gambling ads, as a first amendment issue. I think it was a bad decision.
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