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Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty

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Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty

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Poetry had already solved that.

What's the poetry equivalent of this? uv run --with boto3 python

The claim was:

> The key issue uv solved wasn't dependencies, it was environments.

and not specific, niche features.

I don't know of such a command in Poetry, but it could still be solved with dev groups or running Python in the virtual environment and installing the package.

Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the poetry equivalent of this? uv run --with boto3 python

The claim was: > The key issue uv solved wasn't dependencies, it was environments. and not specific, niche features. I don't know of such a command in Poetry, but it could still be solved with dev groups or running Python in the virtual environment and installing the package.

That command is an environment command. It runs Python in a temporary environment with boto3 installed - I use that trick all the time.

Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty

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what is stopping the poetry guys to rewrite poetry from the ground up as part of a breaking new release?

What happened to Poetry? did it just not gain enough traction? I was under the impression it was the hot new thing a few years back then uv comes out of nowhere.

Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty

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what is stopping the poetry guys to rewrite poetry from the ground up as part of a breaking new release?

What happened to Poetry? did it just not gain enough traction? I was under the impression it was the hot new thing a few years back then uv comes out of nowhere.

I thought the same thing. Just a few years ago, everyone here was proclaiming Poetry was great, the python ecosystem was finally tamed, pip/conda/setuptools was dead, and every project and developer needs to adopt it.

Now it’s just a has-been. The churn in python is incredible.

Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty

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Not to gatekeep things but if you think uv solved python dependency issues then you probably never had those issues in the first place and pip would have been enough for your use case. Conda on the other hand, with external binary dependencies, now we're talking.

Well it is much faster so you can keep iterating installing dependencies until you fix the issue in much less time

Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty

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what is stopping the poetry guys to rewrite poetry from the ground up as part of a breaking new release?

What happened to Poetry? did it just not gain enough traction? I was under the impression it was the hot new thing a few years back then uv comes out of nowhere.

The news of this acquisition has made me too scared to admit that I actually have no issues Poetry.
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