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I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by Karuma »

buildbot wrote: post #3
smartbit wrote: post #2

Great research and write-up, maybe a bit too elaborate. Will be interesting to see if a public outcry will happen once these boxes start arriving at those who funded the kickstarter.

It’s LLM slop and very shallow, in my opinion.

Thank you.

Every time I complain about this kind of useless AI slop I get downvoted to hell and get dozens of comments saying "it doesn't look AI at all", so I don't even bother anymore. It's incredibly sad, I expected much more from this community... But it looks like it'll soon be dead like the rest of the internet.

Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by rkagerer »

pushfoo wrote: post #5
qwe----3 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The blogpost?

ctrl-f for "This isn't" and note how many instances of this pattern there are: > This isn't X. It's Y.

I don't see a single occurrence in the article of the word "isn't".

Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by sodality2 »

rkagerer wrote: post #13
pushfoo wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ctrl-f for "This isn't" and note how many instances of this pattern there are: > This isn't X. It's Y.

I don't see a single occurrence in the article of the word "isn't".

> That means the lock-in isn’t just product strategy. It’s also architecture.

> And that omission isn’t some harmless simplification. It’s the entire trick.

It isn't just once. It's—twice. ;)

Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by kgeist »

sodality2 wrote: post #14
rkagerer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see a single occurrence in the article of the word "isn't".

> That means the lock-in isn’t just product strategy. It’s also architecture. > And that omission isn’t some harmless simplification. It’s the entire trick. It isn't just once. It's—twice. ;)

Also stuff like this:

>That’s not exotic. That’s just model parallelism with extra suffering.

>That’s not product magic. That’s a checkbox.

What really triggers my internal AI slop detector is this:

>Their renders. Their prototype shots. Their exploded views. Their spec sheet.

>Nobody asked what silicon was inside. Nobody asked how 120B on LPDDR5X was supposed to work. Nobody spent

>No cloud. No GPU. No subscriptions.

>wrong class of chip, wrong power envelope, wrong everything

>The visual geometry matches. The licensing model matches. The China-based semiconductor ecosystem match

>Real researchers. Real papers. Real contributions.

LLMs love to overuse this pattern.

Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by dvt »

I genuinely feel disrespected if AI is used to write an article and it's not disclosed in the first paragraph. It's not really that big of a deal, tbh, it's like saying "I took a picture, I didn't paint it."

Which is fine, but please disclose it. Otherwise, like in this case, I'm going to assume the author is a moron that can't write for shit who thinks their readers are morons that can't read for shit.

Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by kgeist »

kgeist wrote: post #15
sodality2 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That means the lock-in isn’t just product strategy. It’s also architecture. > And that omission isn’t some harmless simplification. It’s the entire trick. It isn't just once. It's—twice. ;)

Also stuff like this: >That’s not exotic. That’s just model parallelism with extra suffering. >That’s not product magic. That’s a checkbox. What really triggers my internal AI slop detector is this: >Their renders. Their prototype shots. Their exploded views. Their spec sheet. >Nobody asked what silicon was inside. Nobody asked how 120B on LPDDR5X was supposed to work. Nobody spent >No cloud. No GPU. No subscriptions…

This also smells of an autoregressive model trying to make a point that TiinyAI simply forked another repo and claimed as their own invention, before realizing mid-paragraph it's by the same people:

>So no, TiinyAI did not “launch” PowerInfer. SJTU researchers did.

>TiinyAI’s GitHub repo is a fork of the original PowerInfer repository. At least one of the original academic authors appears tied to the code history. So there is clearly some real overlap between the research world and the product world.

Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by onoesworkacct »

dvt wrote: post #16

I genuinely feel disrespected if AI is used to write an article and it's not disclosed in the first paragraph. It's not really that big of a deal, tbh, it's like saying "I took a picture, I didn't paint it." Which is fine, but please disclose it. Otherwise, like in this case, I'm going to assume the author is a moron that can't write for shit who thinks their readers are morons that can't read for shit.

Agree. Also because of the way AI writes, it takes SO LONG to read through it (they're trained on blogspam where the page tells you the author's life story as well as the bloody history of bread before telling you how to bake it)

Re: I Reverse-Engineered the TiinyAI Pocket Lab from Marketing Photos

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Post by rkagerer »

sodality2 wrote: post #14
rkagerer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see a single occurrence in the article of the word "isn't".

> That means the lock-in isn’t just product strategy. It’s also architecture. > And that omission isn’t some harmless simplification. It’s the entire trick. It isn't just once. It's—twice. ;)

Oof, thanks! (I'm going to blame it on my Android Chrome "find in page" tool not working as expected, and I apologize)
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