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The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by commandersaki »

mikestew wrote: post #5
quietsegfault wrote: post #4

Wow, this is the first time I've read someone who actually says that Windows is ... better ... than MacOS. Wow.

I don’t think TFA said Windows is better overall, but c’mon, even a diehard Mac user like myself can see how stagnated, say, task/app switching is on macOS in comparison to Windows. And things like Mission Control always seemed like a “we’ll come back and polish that up later” feature, but they never did come back to it.

I use cmd-tab/cmd-` on macos, and alt-tab on windows. I feel they're mostly equivalent, not sure what's wrong with task switching. The real issue is finding the right window/tab I want in my browser, but searching tabs is now a thing and works for me pretty much everytime.

Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by randerson »

x0x0 wrote: post #6
quietsegfault wrote: post #4

Wow, this is the first time I've read someone who actually says that Windows is ... better ... than MacOS. Wow.

I've used macs for pushing 20 years. The external monitor story remains crap. Even on a recent mbp and a $1500 LG 5k ultrawide. Plug it in and the display flickers back and forth. etc. Apple do not care.

I wonder if they nerfed HDMI connectivity to get people to buy the expensive Apple Studio displays. I just bought myself a Studio XDR, and my MBP now wakes up in under 2 seconds, compared to about 30 seconds with my old Dell monitor.

Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by [deleted] »

PaulHoule wrote: post #3

I remember circa 2017 working for startups and traveling a lot. Most of the people were using macs but I had an Alienware because that way I could have a real GPU and train neural nets locally. Back then a mac worked much better with the docks I could find and monitors that had a dock plugged in. It was close to instant and "just works" on the Mac whereas the Windows computer would take 45 seconds to enumerate the do…

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Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by tyleo »

I agree with the criticisms of modern macOS. However, let’s not forget their competitor is Windows. So even if they aren’t going great, it’s not like they have stiff competiton. Thats before even getting into hardware where Microsoft is even further behind.

It’s unfortunate that it’s so hard to disrupt this space.

Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by quietsegfault »

x0x0 wrote: post #6
quietsegfault wrote: post #4

Wow, this is the first time I've read someone who actually says that Windows is ... better ... than MacOS. Wow.

I've used macs for pushing 20 years. The external monitor story remains crap. Even on a recent mbp and a $1500 LG 5k ultrawide. Plug it in and the display flickers back and forth. etc. Apple do not care.

That’s disappointing. I never had any problems with external monitors on MacOS. I have two 4k monitors. I use a Thunderbolt dock because I understand how much data 4k screens push, and how a USB dock won’t cut it. I think if you’re having flickering, you might want to try new cables?

Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by cguess »

x0x0 wrote: post #6
quietsegfault wrote: post #4

Wow, this is the first time I've read someone who actually says that Windows is ... better ... than MacOS. Wow.

I've used macs for pushing 20 years. The external monitor story remains crap. Even on a recent mbp and a $1500 LG 5k ultrawide. Plug it in and the display flickers back and forth. etc. Apple do not care.

Compared to when I recently tried a Starbook (so, made for Linux) for a few months, MacOS monitor management is like silk. Despite using the same display every day for work, Ubuntu failed constantly to even get the resolution right every day. Meanwhile my Mac somehow guesses which side of the computer the monitor is on (even on new setups) almost always correctly. That last part I have no idea how they do it.

Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by ranger207 »

quietsegfault wrote: post #4

Wow, this is the first time I've read someone who actually says that Windows is ... better ... than MacOS. Wow.

I would've said that at the tail end of Windows 10. I got my first Mac via work just as Windows 11 was coming out (having switched my personal devices to Linux), and my memories of Windows were much better than whatever version of MacOS I was using at the time. But my next work computer was Windows 11 (I got tired of the differences between MacOS's shell and Debian on all our servers so I just wanted to use WSL) and Windows 11 is the worst OS I've ever used

Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by stevenkkim »

mikestew wrote: post #5
quietsegfault wrote: post #4

Wow, this is the first time I've read someone who actually says that Windows is ... better ... than MacOS. Wow.

I don’t think TFA said Windows is better overall, but c’mon, even a diehard Mac user like myself can see how stagnated, say, task/app switching is on macOS in comparison to Windows. And things like Mission Control always seemed like a “we’ll come back and polish that up later” feature, but they never did come back to it.

AltTab works well for me on macOS https://alt-tab-macos.netlify.app/

Re: The Neo cannot scale with macOS behind on the basics

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Post by wtallis »

cguess wrote: post #16
x0x0 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've used macs for pushing 20 years. The external monitor story remains crap. Even on a recent mbp and a $1500 LG 5k ultrawide. Plug it in and the display flickers back and forth. etc. Apple do not care.

Compared to when I recently tried a Starbook (so, made for Linux) for a few months, MacOS monitor management is like silk. Despite using the same display every day for work, Ubuntu failed constantly to even get the resolution right every day. Meanwhile my Mac somehow guesses which side of the computer the monitor is on (even on new setups) almost always correctly. That last part I have no idea how they do it.

> Meanwhile my Mac somehow guesses which side of the computer the monitor is on (even on new setups) almost always correctly. That last part I have no idea how they do it.

I have no idea how macOS does it, but the obvious thing to try is to leave the relative positioning undefined until the first time the user tries to move the mouse off one screen, and assume they're aiming for the other screen.

It would probably make sense to constrain this to horizontal movements, so that taking advantage of Fitts' Law to hit the menu bar or the Dock (at the bottom by default) wouldn't produce a false positive signal about display positioning when stacked display setups are less common than side by side.

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