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DOJ to Allow Hiring of US Prosecutors Straight Out of Law School

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I think resigning in protest does more harm than good in the long run. They just replace you with a loyalist or an incompetent. Don't do their job for them. Make them fire you.

I suspect 'resigning in protest' is a news media term and that attorneys are resigning because that is what ethics require when confronted with demands to conduct themselves in illegal or improper ways.

Re: DOJ to Allow Hiring of US Prosecutors Straight Out of Law School

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typically you avoid people long in the tooth of thier career if you need vice-grip control over your subordinates.

these freshies, probates, pledges, strykers and cannon fodder, will be stood up to scapegoat and rotated out for inner circle members who will solve the newbie generated failure, to great accolades

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These kids won't be arguing before the Supreme Court though. They'll be taking the losses at the lower levels

Not really - most USAO cases are settled. Also, most of the vacancies are for federal prosecutor roles.

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I think resigning in protest does more harm than good in the long run. They just replace you with a loyalist or an incompetent. Don't do their job for them. Make them fire you.

> resigning in protest does more harm than good in the long run. They just replace you with a loyalist or an incompetent

We’re seeing measurable effects from these resignations. A competent prosecutor could have indicted Comey. They resigned. And Halligan dropped the ball. Same as the other make-up obsessed idiots behind them.

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post #11

I think resigning in protest does more harm than good in the long run. They just replace you with a loyalist or an incompetent. Don't do their job for them. Make them fire you.

I suspect 'resigning in protest' is a news media term and that attorneys are resigning because that is what ethics require when confronted with demands to conduct themselves in illegal or improper ways.

> suspect 'resigning in protest' is a news media term and that attorneys are resigning because that is what ethics require when confronted with demands to conduct themselves in illegal or improper ways

So an accurate term. What does “news media term” mean for you?

Re: DOJ to Allow Hiring of US Prosecutors Straight Out of Law School

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You can smell the desperation from here. Have to wonder if any of these fresh graduates are wondering about what long-term damage they may be doing to their professional reputation. How hirable will you be if the first few years of your law career you were were laughed out of every Court because you were trying to defend a historically unpopular administration?

> Have to wonder if any of these fresh graduates are wondering about what long-term damage they may be doing to their professional reputation. The legal market is brutal and KJDs need to pay off their undergrad, law school, and maybe even grad school debt. The average and median salary of a Harvard Law graduate is $167K and $225K respectively [0], but your JD cost of attendance would be around $400K [1] and your bach…

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Re: DOJ to Allow Hiring of US Prosecutors Straight Out of Law School

#17

You can smell the desperation from here. Have to wonder if any of these fresh graduates are wondering about what long-term damage they may be doing to their professional reputation. How hirable will you be if the first few years of your law career you were were laughed out of every Court because you were trying to defend a historically unpopular administration?

> Have to wonder if any of these fresh graduates are wondering about what long-term damage they may be doing to their professional reputation. The legal market is brutal and KJDs need to pay off their undergrad, law school, and maybe even grad school debt. The average and median salary of a Harvard Law graduate is $167K and $225K respectively [0], but your JD cost of attendance would be around $400K [1] and your bach…

> Kash Patel, ... and others in both parties were former AUSAs.

Apropos of anything else, Patel has never been an AUSA. He was a public defender at the state and federal levels in Florida.

Re: DOJ to Allow Hiring of US Prosecutors Straight Out of Law School

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Have to wonder if any of these fresh graduates are wondering about what long-term damage they may be doing to their professional reputation. The legal market is brutal and KJDs need to pay off their undergrad, law school, and maybe even grad school debt. The average and median salary of a Harvard Law graduate is $167K and $225K respectively [0], but your JD cost of attendance would be around $400K [1] and your bach…

> Kash Patel, ... and others in both parties were former AUSAs. Apropos of anything else, Patel has never been an AUSA. He was a public defender at the state and federal levels in Florida.

Doh you're right - his stint as a prosecutor was at the NSD not a USAO.

Re: DOJ to Allow Hiring of US Prosecutors Straight Out of Law School

#19

I think resigning in protest does more harm than good in the long run. They just replace you with a loyalist or an incompetent. Don't do their job for them. Make them fire you.

The fact that so many DOJ employees are now incompetent is working against the fascists. Rumeysa Ozturk is free and living in the US because DOJ employees failed to provide the required documentation to the court to demonstrate that Rubio had cancelled her visa.

If you are going to stay at DOJ the only ethical thing would be to be as incompetent as possible. Staying and actually working causes harm.

Re: DOJ to Allow Hiring of US Prosecutors Straight Out of Law School

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect 'resigning in protest' is a news media term and that attorneys are resigning because that is what ethics require when confronted with demands to conduct themselves in illegal or improper ways.

> suspect 'resigning in protest' is a news media term and that attorneys are resigning because that is what ethics require when confronted with demands to conduct themselves in illegal or improper ways So an accurate term. What does “news media term” mean for you?

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