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My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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If you're less concerned about privacy, I use Gemini 2.5 Flash for this and it's exceptionally good and fast as a HA assistant while being much cheaper than the electricity that would be needed to keep a 3090 awake. The thing that kills this for me (and they even mentioned it) is wake word detection. I have both the HA voice preview and FPH Satellite1 devices, plus have experimented with a few other options like a Ra…

I have a feeling beamforming microphone arrays might help here, something like this could improve the audio being processed substantially - https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/uma-8-m....

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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post #6

This is five months old now. Any substantial changes to the recommended setup?

It looks like the author has kept it updated since then.

They mention the "Qwen3.5 (35B)" model for example which was released around 2 weeks ago.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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I've recently purchased a couple of the Home Assistant Voice Preview Edition devices, and they leave a lot to be desired.

The wake word detection isn't great, and the audio quality is abysmal (for voice responses, not music).

Amazon has ruined their Alexa and Echo devices with ads and annoying nag messages.

I'd really like an open alternative, but the basics are lacking right now.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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Do people like talking to voice assistants? I've used one occasionally (mostly for timers when I'm cooking), but most of the time it would be faster for me to just do it myself, and feels much less awkward than talking to empty air, asking it to do things for me. It might be because I just really don't like making more noise than I have to (Yes, I appreciate that some people may be disabled in such a way that it make…

I consider each time I need to pull out my phone and "do it myself" to be a failure of my smart home system.

If a light cannot be automatically on when I need it (like a motion sensor) or controlled with a dedicated button within arms reach (like a remote on my desk) then the third best option is one that lets me control it without interrupting what I'm doing, moving from where I am, using my hands, or possessing anything (a voice assistant).

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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post #2

Their first version is most likely already 10x better than Siri. > Understands when it is in a particular area and does not ask “which light?” when there is only one light in the area, but does correctly ask when there are multiple of the device type in the given area.

One of my favorite episodes:

I set 2 timers for the same thing somehow. I then tried to cancel one of them.

  >“Siri, cancel the second timer”
  “You have 2 timers running, would you like me to cancel one of them?”
  >“Yes”
  “Yes is an English rock band from the 70s…”
  >“Siri, please cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 10 seconds on it”
  “Would you like me to cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 8 seconds on it?”
  >“Yes”
  “Yes is an English rock band from the 70s…”
Eventually they both rang and she listened when I said stop.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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post #2

Their first version is most likely already 10x better than Siri. > Understands when it is in a particular area and does not ask “which light?” when there is only one light in the area, but does correctly ask when there are multiple of the device type in the given area.

One of my favorite episodes: I set 2 timers for the same thing somehow. I then tried to cancel one of them. >“Siri, cancel the second timer” “You have 2 timers running, would you like me to cancel one of them?” >“Yes” “Yes is an English rock band from the 70s…” >“Siri, please cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 10 seconds on it” “Would you like me to cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 8 seconds on it?” >“Yes” “Yes i…

> "Stop" is a song by English girl group the Spice Girls from their second studio album, Spiceworld (1997).

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

#17

Do people like talking to voice assistants? I've used one occasionally (mostly for timers when I'm cooking), but most of the time it would be faster for me to just do it myself, and feels much less awkward than talking to empty air, asking it to do things for me. It might be because I just really don't like making more noise than I have to (Yes, I appreciate that some people may be disabled in such a way that it make…

I consider each time I need to pull out my phone and "do it myself" to be a failure of my smart home system. If a light cannot be automatically on when I need it (like a motion sensor) or controlled with a dedicated button within arms reach (like a remote on my desk) then the third best option is one that lets me control it without interrupting what I'm doing, moving from where I am, using my hands, or possessing any…

Do you not just turn the light on when you go in a room, and turn it off again when you go out? All the rooms in my flat have switches next to the door

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

#18

If you're less concerned about privacy, I use Gemini 2.5 Flash for this and it's exceptionally good and fast as a HA assistant while being much cheaper than the electricity that would be needed to keep a 3090 awake. The thing that kills this for me (and they even mentioned it) is wake word detection. I have both the HA voice preview and FPH Satellite1 devices, plus have experimented with a few other options like a Ra…

How about a button?

I'd prefer to physically press a button on an intercom box than having something churning away constantly processing sound.

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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post #2

Their first version is most likely already 10x better than Siri. > Understands when it is in a particular area and does not ask “which light?” when there is only one light in the area, but does correctly ask when there are multiple of the device type in the given area.

One of my favorite episodes: I set 2 timers for the same thing somehow. I then tried to cancel one of them. >“Siri, cancel the second timer” “You have 2 timers running, would you like me to cancel one of them?” >“Yes” “Yes is an English rock band from the 70s…” >“Siri, please cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 10 seconds on it” “Would you like me to cancel the timer with 2 minutes and 8 seconds on it?” >“Yes” “Yes i…

My favorite is when I ask Siri to set a timer and get back "there are no timers running."

Re: My Journey to a reliable and enjoyable locally hosted voice assistant (2025)

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Do people like talking to voice assistants? I've used one occasionally (mostly for timers when I'm cooking), but most of the time it would be faster for me to just do it myself, and feels much less awkward than talking to empty air, asking it to do things for me. It might be because I just really don't like making more noise than I have to (Yes, I appreciate that some people may be disabled in such a way that it make…

I guess most of my use is whilst driving, to start/stop music or audiobooks, change navigation etc. Although changing navigation through Siri is somewhat painful as it often gets my intended destination wrong lol.
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