At what point will we have people transmit their car dash cams along with GPS information in order to generate more data? I’m actually surprised this hasn’t happened yet with self driving car manufacturers needing more and more data
'Pokémon Go' players unknowingly trained delivery robots with 30B images
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#12> crowdsourced data, seemingly collected for one purpose
> Whether players knew it or not, those scans were creating 3D models of the real world
Kind of shitty reporting. Did users know about this data collection or not? Was it not disclosed?
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#13Looks like teenagers are going to have fun playing Pokemon Go, and now have faster food deliveries.
It's useful to map the world, this is what Google / Baidu / Yandex Maps are doing too.
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#14wasnt this sort of obvious to anyone familiar with Niantic?
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#15> crowdsourced data, seemingly collected for one purpose > Whether players knew it or not, those scans were creating 3D models of the real world Kind of shitty reporting. Did users know about this data collection or not? Was it not disclosed?
The privacy policy was just a generic corporate "we may collect some information to improve a service" crap.
Technically, lawyers will argue that users had to opportunity to inform themselves.
Practically, nobody knew.
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#16At what point will we have people transmit their car dash cams along with GPS information in order to generate more data? I’m actually surprised this hasn’t happened yet with self driving car manufacturers needing more and more data
Great question. A "Ring Dashcam" with a mobile connection would win customers based on name recognition alone.
Not a lot of big companies in the dashcam market, there are a lot of alphabet companies and some small players like Vantrue. The only company with broader recognition is Garmin and it feels like a weird side gig for them.
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#17My friend plays Pokémon Go for hours every day while walking his dog. I asked him about this and now we’re both confused. The in game scanning is only for major landmarks in the game. Even in his dense city these landmarks are few and far between. The world model would only have sparse information in the area immediately surrounding these landmarks.
I don’t know if there’s much substance to the delivery robot story. This could be a journalist trying to make the story relatable.
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#18Looks like teenagers are going to have fun playing Pokemon Go, and now have faster food deliveries. It's useful to map the world, this is what Google / Baidu / Yandex Maps are doing too.
It is indeed useful.
The question is how one stands on the monopolistic collection by a commercial entity.
I personally don't mind to share GPS traces and other data with i.e. open streetmap, as I directly benefit from the data as well and it's more or less equal between different entities.
I try not to give too much to Google and similar companies as this increases their competitive advantage, while my benefit is small.
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#19wasnt this sort of obvious to anyone familiar with Niantic?
“What’s Niantic?”
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#20I like Pokemon Go and play almost every day. I did this scan one time and then stopped. The rewards are not worth the hassle. I don't think many players are doing it. It's just very weird to stand somewhere and scan an object. I also wouldn't say 'unknowingly trained', it's pretty obvious what it does, and I think the game even tells you that they want to understands how the POI looks like in 3D.
My son showed me how he does these quests: he points the phone at the floor and just wiggles it back and forth.