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It stands out, because it didn't sell. Which is weird because there were some pretty big pros about using them. The latency for updating 1 byte was crazy good. Some databases or journals for something like zfs really benefited from this.
Related: "High-bandwidth flash progress and future" (15 comments), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46700384 In an era of RAM shortages and quarterly price increases, Optane remains viable for swap and CPU/GPU cache.
It stands out, because it didn't sell. Which is weird because there were some pretty big pros about using them. The latency for updating 1 byte was crazy good. Some databases or journals for something like zfs really benefited from this.
It feels like everyone figured out what to do with them and how just about when they stopped making them.
Intel's got an amazing record of axing projects as soon as they've done the hard work of building an ecosystem.
It stands out, because it didn't sell. Which is weird because there were some pretty big pros about using them. The latency for updating 1 byte was crazy good. Some databases or journals for something like zfs really benefited from this.
Related: "High-bandwidth flash progress and future" (15 comments), https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46700384 In an era of RAM shortages and quarterly price increases, Optane remains viable for swap and CPU/GPU cache.
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It feels like everyone figured out what to do with them and how just about when they stopped making them.
Same for the Larabee / Knights architecture. Would sure be fun to play around with a 500 core Knights CPU with a couple TB of optane for LLM inference. Intel's got an amazing record of axing projects as soon as they've done the hard work of building an ecosystem.
The newest fully E-core based Xeon CPUs have reached that figure by now, at least in dual-socket configs.
It stands out, because it didn't sell. Which is weird because there were some pretty big pros about using them. The latency for updating 1 byte was crazy good. Some databases or journals for something like zfs really benefited from this.
It isn't weird at all. I would be surprised if it ever succeed in the first place.
Cost was way too high. Intel not sharing the tech with others other than Micron. Micron wasn't committed to it either, and since unused capacity at the Fab was paid by Intel regardless they dont care. No long term solution or strategy to bring cost down. Neither Intel or Micron have a vision on this. No one wanted another Intel only tech lock in. And despite the high price, it barely made any profits per unit compared to NAND and DRAM which was at the time making historic high profits. Once the NAND and DRAM cycle went down again cost / performance on Optane wasn't as attractive. Samsung even made some form of SLC NAND that performs similar to Optane but cheaper, and even they end up stopped developing for it due to lack of interest.
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Same for the Larabee / Knights architecture. Would sure be fun to play around with a 500 core Knights CPU with a couple TB of optane for LLM inference. Intel's got an amazing record of axing projects as soon as they've done the hard work of building an ecosystem.
> 500 core The newest fully E-core based Xeon CPUs have reached that figure by now, at least in dual-socket configs.
Looking at those charts, besides the DWPD it feels like normal NVMe has mostly caught up. I occassionally wonder where a gen 7/8(?) optane would be today if it caught on, it'd probably be nuts.