SEP: https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2024/entries/habermas... My favorite quote of Habermas ist about Luhmann’s[1] theory: "It‘s all wrong, but it‘s got quality". [1] the Zettelkasten person
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#12SEP: https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2024/entries/habermas... My favorite quote of Habermas ist about Luhmann’s[1] theory: "It‘s all wrong, but it‘s got quality". [1] the Zettelkasten person
I like Luhmann’s theory better. What i like about it is that Luhmann argues that the smallest denominator of a social system is a realation between two. Habermas says it can be brought down to an individual. Which in my mind defeats the “social” part.
That is, I could see that the idea of a society of two could be derived from a society of one in that I could extend my desire to be kind to my past, present, and future selves, to a desire to be kind to selves that are not my own.
Kind of like a computing network being a generalisation of the network that exists inside anyone one machine in that networking is just i/o with more steps and more wire?
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#13I have to say I'm quite disappointed by his attitude against Palestine. RIP, but not with the victims. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/22/israel-hamas-w...
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#14I have to say I'm quite disappointed by his attitude against Palestine. RIP, but not with the victims. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/22/israel-hamas-w...
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#15I have to say I'm quite disappointed by his attitude against Palestine. RIP, but not with the victims. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/22/israel-hamas-w...
Totally disappointing. But coming from Germany, no surprise. German intellectualls and media totally ignore the suffering in Palesine. And fully suppress any solidarity with Palestine. By defunding, by cancelling, by smear campaigns (look up how they--overnight--deligitimised Greta Thunberg), by basically not reporting about what's going on there. And if you are state employed, you can basically bet on it losing your…
That reduces empathy towards other Muslims quite significantly.
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#16I have to say I'm quite disappointed by his attitude against Palestine. RIP, but not with the victims. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/22/israel-hamas-w...
The majority of Germans is completely biased towards Zionism because of their history, so it's more of a cultural than a personal thing.
"The power of the Jews even today, especially in America, should not be underestimated. And therefore I have very deliberately and very consciously — and that was always my opinion — put all my strength, the best I could, to bring about a reconciliation between the Jewish people and the German people."
It was never about guilt, still is not. Germany has learned nothing from its past.
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#17What an accomplished life.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Totally disappointing. But coming from Germany, no surprise. German intellectualls and media totally ignore the suffering in Palesine. And fully suppress any solidarity with Palestine. By defunding, by cancelling, by smear campaigns (look up how they--overnight--deligitimised Greta Thunberg), by basically not reporting about what's going on there. And if you are state employed, you can basically bet on it losing your…
Europe also has a non-trivial problem with both Islamic terrorism and cultural clash between indigenous Europeans and newly settled Muslims. That reduces empathy towards other Muslims quite significantly.
To name a few conflicts incited by the West: The Nakba in 1948 displaced 750,000 Palestinians and created a refugee population that still hasn't been resolved.
The Soviet-Afghan War displaced 6M+ people.
The US invaded Iraq in 2003, directly creating the vacuum that spawned ISIS.
NATO bombed Libya into a failed state.
The US and Israel spent years destabilizing Syria long before the civil war made it the worst refugee crisis since WWII.
Europe's closest allies armed all sides of Yemen's proxy war.
=> Every single wave of Muslim refugees into Europe traces back to a conflict the West had its hands in. Blaming Muslims for being here while ignoring why they had to leave is not a serious position.
And now Iran, a country with 90+m population. And noone stops US/israel. What do you think will cause the next flow of refugees?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe also has a non-trivial problem with both Islamic terrorism and cultural clash between indigenous Europeans and newly settled Muslims. That reduces empathy towards other Muslims quite significantly.
Why did muslims have to leave their countries? The "cultural clash" didn't appear out of thin air. Muslims are in Europe in large numbers because of wars that Europe and the West either started, fueled, or failed to prevent. To name a few conflicts incited by the West: The Nakba in 1948 displaced 750,000 Palestinians and created a refugee population that still hasn't been resolved. The Soviet-Afghan War displaced 6M+…
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#20I have to say I'm quite disappointed by his attitude against Palestine. RIP, but not with the victims. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/22/israel-hamas-w...
Totally disappointing. But coming from Germany, no surprise. German intellectualls and media totally ignore the suffering in Palesine. And fully suppress any solidarity with Palestine. By defunding, by cancelling, by smear campaigns (look up how they--overnight--deligitimised Greta Thunberg), by basically not reporting about what's going on there. And if you are state employed, you can basically bet on it losing your…