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Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by jmspring »

bearjaws wrote: post #8

Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. I also keep hearing this narrative that Twitter is a good data source, but I cannot imagine it's a valuable dataset. Sure keeping up with realtime topics can be useful, but I am not sure how much of a product that is.

Twitter has the mass adoption, and it takes an effort to avoid bot/particular view bias - but as a valuable content source, it's a far cry from what it once was before Musk took it over.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by knicholes »

epolanski wrote: post #9
dang wrote: post #46

[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ]

tbh I wouldn't give Elon a dime even if Grok was miles better than competition.

Why?

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by serial_dev »

tibbar wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #3

Not even Elon believes that Cursor is worth $50B or even $29B.

How can cursor be worth more than a few billion? Claude/Codex are already better autonomous SWE-lite replacements. Cognition surely has a better internal harness. Cursor does have a lot of users, I'll give it that.

Distribution is also important. Cursor is a great normie tool (I’m one of them), with probably more enterprise deals than the competition.

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Post by ok_dad »

tibbar wrote: post #6
rvz wrote: post #3

Not even Elon believes that Cursor is worth $50B or even $29B.

How can cursor be worth more than a few billion? Claude/Codex are already better autonomous SWE-lite replacements. Cognition surely has a better internal harness. Cursor does have a lot of users, I'll give it that.

I like Cursor a lot more than Claude Code. It works better for me overall. I like the way they integrate it into the IDE so the agent is my tool rather than a 'partner' or something like that. I'm pretty sad that they lost some engineers, I hope these folks weren't integral to Cursor in any way.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by throwaway2027 »

dang wrote: post #46

[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ]

Elon is such a clown, he keeps posting salty tweets about Anthropic, Claude Code, OpenAI and Codex yet has no competing product.

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Post by reactordev »

knicholes wrote: post #13
epolanski wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tbh I wouldn't give Elon a dime even if Grok was miles better than competition.

Why?

Moral grandstanding on the account of his political views and the fact that he does Nazi salutes on stage, on TV, for the world to see… might have something to do with it.

Re: Elon Musk pushes out more xAI founders as AI coding effort falters

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Post by natebc »

dang wrote: post #4

I couldn't find a working archive link for the ft.com article - anyone? Since it's the original source I've left it up, but added other URLs to the toptext.

I sent it to archive.ph here:

https://archive.ph/rP4cb

and it has the content but the formatting is atrocious.

HTH.

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Post by skywhopper »

knicholes wrote: post #13
epolanski wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tbh I wouldn't give Elon a dime even if Grok was miles better than competition.

Why?

Because Elon is a criminal scam artist and a horrifying racist who seems to be completely detached from reality.

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Post by notahacker »

bearjaws wrote: post #8

Feel like the canary was when Grokpedia became a project. Giant waste of time while Anthropic/OAI keep surging forward. I also keep hearing this narrative that Twitter is a good data source, but I cannot imagine it's a valuable dataset. Sure keeping up with realtime topics can be useful, but I am not sure how much of a product that is.

Twitter's communication style being based around brevity, slang, memes, spam and non-threaded conversations seems particularly unlikely to be helpful for optimising LLMs
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