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Universal vaccine against respiratory infections and allergens

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Re: Universal vaccine against respiratory infections and allergens

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The only human disease that has been eradicated is smallpox. What did that get relabeled to?

Yeah this is the funniest anti-vax stance I've ever heard. I'm really interested to hear what other diseases we've apparently eradicated without telling anyone.

Re: Universal vaccine against respiratory infections and allergens

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I don't know much about this, but wouldn't the description of this imply you're stimulating the body to be in an a long-term situation that would be commonly viewed as unpleasant (inflamed, maybe nasal drainage, that type of thing) with the positive tradeoff that you get fewer actual infections?

Or worse. If it is so easy to activate, there must be an evolutionary reason why we don’t have it.

Systemic cost.

We could have paper shredders, blenders, toasters, water taps, and so on that just ran all the time, but our utility bills would be ginormous. Same thing for our bodies.

Re: Universal vaccine against respiratory infections and allergens

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The only human disease that has been eradicated is smallpox. What did that get relabeled to?

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Measles and chickenpox aren't even similar pathogens. Chickenpox is more closely related to herpes!

(That's also why chickenpox can come back later in life as shingles, the same way cold sores recur... because shingles is reactivated chickenpox, it's not a "relabeled" virus...)

Re: Universal vaccine against respiratory infections and allergens

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Or worse. If it is so easy to activate, there must be an evolutionary reason why we don’t have it.

Systemic cost. We could have paper shredders, blenders, toasters, water taps, and so on that just ran all the time, but our utility bills would be ginormous. Same thing for our bodies.

Or the risk of autoimmune disease?

Re: Universal vaccine against respiratory infections and allergens

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I don't know much about this, but wouldn't the description of this imply you're stimulating the body to be in an a long-term situation that would be commonly viewed as unpleasant (inflamed, maybe nasal drainage, that type of thing) with the positive tradeoff that you get fewer actual infections?

Right, that's been mentioned elsewhere.

A new area of research has opened up. This approach may be more useful for treatment than prevention. It's not really a vaccine; it's more like an induced vaccine response. Keeping the immune system in that state full time might be a problem. But after an infection, that's what's wanted.

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Measles and chickenpox aren't even similar pathogens. Chickenpox is more closely related to herpes! (That's also why chickenpox can come back later in life as shingles, the same way cold sores recur... because shingles is reactivated chickenpox, it's not a "relabeled" virus...)

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