EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim • Hacker News Board

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by askl » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:16 PM UTC

f311a wrote: post #6

I tried to find any recent issues related to AI in the Vim repo, but did not find any. Offending commit https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/fc00006777594f969ba8fcff67... Just Claude as a co-author.

There's a bunch of commits that have "supported by AI claude." as well. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by wat10000 » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:17 PM UTC

lemonwaterlime wrote: post #4

It would be nice if specific offending portions of the codebase were highlighted. As of now, it’s hard to see why one should use this fork. Also, since the source is available, anyone can just compile a past version of vim.

It’s not about specific offending portions, it’s the principle of having any LLM contributions at all. There’s a group of people who are so opposed to this stuff that they object to its mere presence anywhere.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by GaryBluto » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:17 PM UTC

Why am I entirely unsurprised that this anti-LLM hard fork is hosted on Codeberg? At this rate, how likely is it that Codeberg is just going to become a wasteland of abandoned ideological forks (with the exception of one or two major projects) by next year?

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by zzzeek » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:24 PM UTC

askl wrote: post #11

f311a wrote: post #6

I tried to find any recent issues related to AI in the Vim repo, but did not find any. Offending commit https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/fc00006777594f969ba8fcff67... Just Claude as a co-author.

There's a bunch of commits that have "supported by AI claude." as well. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

the lesson here is dont put those comments into your commits. use the tools you want to write code and just use them. it's nobody else's business. if someone overuses AI (which is common) it's quite obvious anyway

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by ZpJuUuNaQ5 » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:26 PM UTC

zzzeek wrote: post #14

askl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a bunch of commits that have "supported by AI claude." as well. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

the lesson here is dont put those comments into your commits. use the tools you want to write code and just use them. it's nobody else's business. if someone overuses AI (which is common) it's quite obvious anyway

These "Co-Authored-By" messages are added automatically by Claude Code when it makes commits on its own, although you just need to instruct it not to do so.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by bilekas » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:36 PM UTC

> to build further upon the foundations of Vim, while avoiding AI taint.

Did I miss something ? Where is the AI Taint coming from ?

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by CodingJeebus » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:36 PM UTC

zzzeek wrote: post #14

askl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a bunch of commits that have "supported by AI claude." as well. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

the lesson here is dont put those comments into your commits. use the tools you want to write code and just use them. it's nobody else's business. if someone overuses AI (which is common) it's quite obvious anyway

Agreed. It's impossible to enforce a user to disclose whether their commit has any AI influence or output anyway. Hard forks like this are just a short-sighted reaction.

If the person behind this fork has been active in FOSS or commercial development at all in the last 3 years, The odds they've never come across undisclosed AI-generated code that looked reasonable has to be close to zero.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by bilekas » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:38 PM UTC

GaryBluto wrote: post #13

Why am I entirely unsurprised that this anti-LLM hard fork is hosted on Codeberg? At this rate, how likely is it that Codeberg is just going to become a wasteland of abandoned ideological forks (with the exception of one or two major projects) by next year?

I'm not sure what the angle of where it's hosted is.. Are you suggesting the project would have more legitimacy if it was hosted on github ?

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by pointlessone » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:39 PM UTC

This kind of news are about nothing. Tell me in a year, even in 3 months, how your fork has been doing. Clicking Fork on gh and writing a blog post is not a fork. A fork is a lot of work. Color me surprised if this will even keep up with the upstream just filtering out the AI commits.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by GaryBluto » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:41 PM UTC

bilekas wrote: post #18

GaryBluto wrote: post #13

Why am I entirely unsurprised that this anti-LLM hard fork is hosted on Codeberg? At this rate, how likely is it that Codeberg is just going to become a wasteland of abandoned ideological forks (with the exception of one or two major projects) by next year?

I'm not sure what the angle of where it's hosted is.. Are you suggesting the project would have more legitimacy if it was hosted on github ?

From what I've read of Codeberg it's user base is a tad tetchy and has a tendency to make mountains out of molehills. It was more of a comment on Codeberg than the project itself.