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60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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Is there any actual evidence for this?

Have you read any of Epstein files, or any reporting about them?

Serious question - you need to give us where you currently are if you want a productive conversation.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a way Occam would find more agreeable.

Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here:

>He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit 29155 for "potential capabilities of non-lethal acoustic weapons."

Acoustic crowd control weapons are not mysterious, there are people on YouTube building and testing them! American companies will sell them to any oppressive government around the world (I believe the ones used against Serbian protestors were American). Yet this description contradicts speculation about microwaves just a bit further down in the article.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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post #12

I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a way Occam would find more agreeable. Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here: >He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit 29155 for "potential capabil…

Yup. There's no hard evidence and so it still comes off as mass psychosis / psychosomatic / placebo effect with wildly-varying "symptoms". Surely, there would be some sizable "weapon" consuming massive amounts of energy nearby that would be visible and captured on video if it were true.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any actual evidence for this?

Have you read any of Epstein files, or any reporting about them? Serious question - you need to give us where you currently are if you want a productive conversation.

The parts that are not hearsay from anonymous sources, which basically means any paranoid story that the FBI still has to document, or blackmailers and grifters with plenty of holes and inconsistencies to their stories, are about about elites partying with 17 and above year olds who where otherwise active already in related "work". Still shady, but hardly what's being reported in the sensationalist coverage, which ranges from abductions and rings to acid baths for murdered victims.

https://www.mtracey.net/p/we-need-to-talk-about-virginia

https://www.mtracey.net/p/epstein-survivors-refusing-questio...

https://www.mtracey.net/p/i-found-the-real-epstein-coverup

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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post #12

I've read reports about Havana Syndrome before and remain thoroughly unconvinced. The locations vary wildly, the symptoms vary wildly and can be explained by normal medical phenomena in a way Occam would find more agreeable. Look at their 'smoking gun' evidence here: >He tracked down an email, what he considers a receipt, for services provided to the Russian government by a member of Unit 29155 for "potential capabil…

Yup. There's no hard evidence and so it still comes off as mass psychosis / psychosomatic / placebo effect with wildly-varying "symptoms". Surely, there would be some sizable "weapon" consuming massive amounts of energy nearby that would be visible and captured on video if it were true.

article explains that it is not sizable

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read any of Epstein files, or any reporting about them? Serious question - you need to give us where you currently are if you want a productive conversation.

The parts that are not hearsay from anonymous sources, which basically means any paranoid story that the FBI still has to document, or blackmailers and grifters with plenty of holes and inconsistencies to their stories, are about about elites partying with 17 and above year olds who where otherwise active already in related "work". Still shady, but hardly what's being reported in the sensationalist coverage, which ra…

Don't forget the people claiming that Epstein ate people because of his weird emails about beef jerky.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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The schizophrenics are getting more reasonable by the day. They ARE listening through your phone. There might actually be a government vehicle following you without identification with intent to abduct (ICE), and now they might actually be tormenting you with invisible energy beams.

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It would seem the best place to hide a real conspiracy is underneath a fake one.

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parts that are not hearsay from anonymous sources, which basically means any paranoid story that the FBI still has to document, or blackmailers and grifters with plenty of holes and inconsistencies to their stories, are about about elites partying with 17 and above year olds who where otherwise active already in related "work". Still shady, but hardly what's being reported in the sensationalist coverage, which ra…

Don't forget the people claiming that Epstein ate people because of his weird emails about beef jerky.

Yeah or stupid jokes like this taken to mean actual torture:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1r1nuv7/ice_cream_...

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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For the benefit of people who read only the headline and not the article: The story here is that the US government captured Russia's energy weapon, which Russia has been using against US personnel for a decade, and tested it to determine what it does (it causes brain damage). This story does _not_ claim that the US has developed a weapon like this themselves.

The effects aren't too far off from reports of the maduro raid, though my understanding is that the US just used a standard LRAD

Re: 60 Minutes Havana Syndrome report finds U.S. government tested energy weapon

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read any of Epstein files, or any reporting about them? Serious question - you need to give us where you currently are if you want a productive conversation.

The parts that are not hearsay from anonymous sources, which basically means any paranoid story that the FBI still has to document, or blackmailers and grifters with plenty of holes and inconsistencies to their stories, are about about elites partying with 17 and above year olds who where otherwise active already in related "work". Still shady, but hardly what's being reported in the sensationalist coverage, which ra…

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