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TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Post by ggm »

Bud wrote: post #9

BBC calling encryption "controversial privacy tech" is deeply disappointing and dangerous.

It is controversial.. amongst people who have concerns about private communications and society, from a regulatory and governance perspective.

It's uncontroversial amongst people who value their privacy.

The tension between the two camps (there are obviously nuances and this is a false dichotomy) is at a current peak. It's an ongoing controversy. It's a matter of public debate.

You might have liked it better if the angle had been "...which the government, controversially, wants to clamp down on" or something.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Post by paulryanrogers »

somenameforme wrote: post #10
sheept wrote: post #3

I feel like this makes sense for a platform that targets teens. Plus, I wouldn't trust TikTok to implement E2E encryption properly—who knows what they've snuck into their client.

I think it's very safe to assume that no major US based platform has 'real' E2E encryption. They're almost certainly all a part of PRISM by now, and it'd contradict their obligations to enable government surveillance. So the only thing that's different is not lying about it. Though I expect the other platforms are, like when denying they were part of PRISM, telling half truths and just being intentionally misleading.…

Signal is open source

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Post by ranyume »

sheept wrote: post #3

I feel like this makes sense for a platform that targets teens. Plus, I wouldn't trust TikTok to implement E2E encryption properly—who knows what they've snuck into their client.

What kind of application is not targeted at both teens and adults?

Youtube, twitter, bluesky, whatsapp? Every app with a social aspect will be used by teens. And no, tiktok is not "only for teens" or "specially targeted at teens", nowadays everyone uses it and creates content on it.

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Post by modernpacifist »

derwiki wrote: post #13
tamimio wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And signal

What do you use for messaging?

Obviously carrier pigeons carrying messages encrypted with post-quantum ciphers where keys have been sent ahead of time using USPS because no one would be so rude as to read someone elses mail.

Re: TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe

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Post by ranyume »

This might be off-topic but on-topic about child safety... but I'm surprised people are being myopic about age verification. Age verification should be banned, but people ignore that nowadays most widely used online services already ask for your age and act accordingly: twitter, youtube, google in general, any online marketplace. They already got so much data on their users and optimize their algorithms for those groups in an opaque way.

So yeah, age verification should be taken down, as well as the datamining these companies do and the opaque tunning of their algorithms. It baffles me: people are concerned about their children's DMs but are not concerned about what companies serves them and what they do with their data.

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