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New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#11

This is pretty damning. It would be interesting to see if new accounts collect karma at any rate whatsoever.

Karma aside, flooding the comments with a chosen narrative via army of bots seems like it's already happening. I suppose the bots can also do voting rings, but they don't necessarily need to.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — Don’t mind me, just skewing the results. — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — results. — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —…

Haha, the code counts the number of comments with em-dashes and similar, not the number of em-dashes total.

Could be an argument made for aggregating by user instead however, if some bots are found to be particularly active and skewing the data.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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I’ve had this sense that HN has gotten absolutely innundated with bots last few months. Is it possible to differentiate between a bot, and a human using AI to 'improve' the quality of their comment where some of the content might be AI written but not all? I don't think it is.

> HN has gotten absolutely innundated with bots last few months. hm, the whole internet really, youtube, reddit, twitter, facebook, blog posts, food recipes, news articles, it's getting more and more obvious

All will be fixed with real id attestation /s

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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(author) I saw a 32:1 rate of EM-dashes last night when I just eyeballed the first 3 pages of /newcomments and /noobcomments. So I'm not sure how stable this is over over time.

I just took a look at /noobcomments and wow, there's ever a comment where a person argues with AI instead of, you know, using their own brain. It was abivous it was ai since it was formatted with markdown

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Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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(author) I saw a 32:1 rate of EM-dashes last night when I just eyeballed the first 3 pages of /newcomments and /noobcomments. So I'm not sure how stable this is over over time.

I just took a look at /noobcomments and wow, there's ever a comment where a person argues with AI instead of, you know, using their own brain. It was abivous it was ai since it was formatted with markdown

the link https://news.ycombinator.com/noobcomments

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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How many of those are bots and how many of those are "fuck you, clankers" humans—like me?

> How many of those are bots and how many of those are "fuck you, clankers" humans—like me?

Maybe the em dash is the self censorship/deletion mechanism that we've all been waiting for. Better than having to write pill subscription ads, I suppose.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#20
A couple thoughts:

(1) I don't recommend focusing disproportionately on one signal. They'll change, and are incredibly easy to optimize for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing

(2) I do recommend taking one minute to dash a note off to hn@ycombinator.com if you see suspicious patterns. Dang and our other intrepid mods are preturnatually responsive, and appear to appreciate the extra eyeballs on the problem.

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