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Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#11
First they rushed a model to market without safety checks, and I said nothing. It wasn't my field.

Then they ignored the researchers warning about what it could do, and I said nothing. It sounded like science fiction.

Then they gave it control of things that matter, power grids, hospitals, weapons, and I said nothing. It seemed to be working fine.

Then something went wrong, and no one knew how to stop it, no one had planned for it, and no one was left who had listened to the warnings.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#12

First they rushed a model to market without safety checks, and I said nothing. It wasn't my field. Then they ignored the researchers warning about what it could do, and I said nothing. It sounded like science fiction. Then they gave it control of things that matter, power grids, hospitals, weapons, and I said nothing. It seemed to be working fine. Then something went wrong, and no one knew how to stop it, no one had…

Plenty of people have said plenty. The problem isn’t the warnings, it’s that people are too stupid and greedy to think about the long term impacts.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#13
Either be a company in capitalist USA, or keep being your safety queen. You just can’t be both.

The intention to start these pledge and conflict with DOW might be sincere, but I don’t expect it to last long, especially the company is going public very soon.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#14

This headline unfortunately offers more smoke than light. This article has nothing to do with the current tête-à-tête with the Pentagon. It is discussing one specific change to Anthropic's "Responsible Scaling Policy" that the company publicly released today as version "3.0".

I consider this a bigger deal than the Pentagon thing.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#15
I just want Apple and Linux to offer ASAP:

1. Extremely granular ways to let user control network and disk access to apps (great if resource access can also be changed)

2. Make it easier for apps as well to work with these

3. I would be interested in knowing how adding a layer before CLI/web even gets the query OS/browser can intercept it and could there be a possibility of preventing harm before hand or at least warning or logging for say someone who overviews those queries later?

And most importantly — all these via an excellent GUI with clear demarcations and settings and we’ll documented (Apple might struggle with documentation; so LLMs might help them there)

My point is — why the hell are we waiting for these companies to be good folks? Why not push them behind a safety layer?

I mean CLI asks .. can I access this folder? Run this program? Download this? But they can just do that if they want! Make them ask those questions like apps asks on phones for location, mic, camera access.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#18
TBH I am sad that Anthropic is changing its stance, but in the current world, if you even care about LLM safety, I feel that this is the right choice — there’s too many model providers and they probably don’t consider safety as high priority as Anthropic. (Yes that might change, they can get pressurized by the govt, yada yada, but they literally created their own company because of AI safety, I do think they actually care for now)

If we need safety, we need Anthropic to be not too far behind (at least for now, before Anthropic possibly becomes evil), and that might mean releasing models that are safer and more steerable than others (even if, unfortunately, they are not 100% up to Anthropic’s goals)

Dogmatism, while great, has its time and place, and with a thousand bad actors in the LLM space, pragmatism wins better.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#19
Of course the US is going to do this and of course its in Anthropics best interest to comply. Right now China is flooding HuggingFace with models that will inevitably have this capability. Right now there are hundreds of models being hosted that have been deliberately processed to remove refusals and their safety training. Everyone who keeps up with this knows about it. HF knows about it. And it is pretty obvious that those open weight models will be deployed in intelligence and defense. It is certain that not just China, but many nations around the world with the capital to host a few powerful servers to run the top open weight models are going to use them for that capability.

The narrative on social media, this site included, is to portray the closed western labs as the bad guys and the less capable labs releasing their distilled open weight models to the world as the good guys.

Right now a kid can go download an Abliterated version of a capable open weight model and they can go wild with it.

But let's worry about what the US DoD is doing or what the western AI companies absolutely dominating the market are doing because that's what drives engagement and clicks.

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