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ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by hinkley »

et1337 wrote: post #3

This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L

The whole “exploding tiny drops of metal” in the middle of this is just Loony Toons. This machine is literally insane and two of the companies I am long-long on would be completely fucked without it.

Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by petcat »

onjectic wrote: post #9

> SAN DIEGO, California > to help retain the Dutch company's edge over emerging U.S. and Chinese rivals Great news, but what a strange attempt to equate the U.S. and China in this and build a narrative. Cymer was founded in San Diego.

Yeah it's an interesting angle in the article. The EUV light source technology is completely designed, developed, and manufactured by Cymer in California, which is a US company that ASML acquired in 2013. If export control agreements were not in place then ASML would have never been permitted to acquire Cymer. And if they are not enforced then the US would almost certainly require ASML to sell Cymer back to US ownership, TikTok-style.

The reality is that it's American technology that is used in ASML machines so I don't know why the article tries to frame it like it's a competition.

Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by patmorgan23 »

hinkley wrote: post #11
et1337 wrote: post #3

This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L

The whole “exploding tiny drops of metal” in the middle of this is just Loony Toons. This machine is literally insane and two of the companies I am long-long on would be completely fucked without it.

You forgot WITH LASERS, and IN A VACUUM

Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by hinkley »

et1337 wrote: post #3

This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L

Okay this is weird.

> The key advancements in Monday's disclosure involved doubling the number of tin drops to about 100,000 every second, and shaping them into plasma using two smaller laser bursts, as opposed to today's machines that use a single shaping burst.

This is covered in that video. Did they let him leak their Q1 plans?

Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by hinkley »

ranger_danger wrote: post #5
throw0101a wrote: post #2

So how small are individual components (e.g., transistors) nowadays? Presumably there's a lower limit: once you're a few atoms across, it seems that you can't go any smaller (?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_nm_process

I still think we should have gone with average gates per square mm as a new yardstick. It would also make sense to the Numbers Go Up people.

Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by atonse »

hinkley wrote: post #11
et1337 wrote: post #3

This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L

The whole “exploding tiny drops of metal” in the middle of this is just Loony Toons. This machine is literally insane and two of the companies I am long-long on would be completely fucked without it.

Yes it was crazy when I first heard about it "wait what? they shoot it in mid-air?" and that was before I found out they did that like 30k times a second.

But now 100k times a second apparently. Humans are amazing.

Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by skrebbel »

culi wrote: post #12
et1337 wrote: post #3

This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L

Here's your link without the surveillance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiUHjLxm3V0

With slightly less surveillance

Re: ASML unveils EUV light source advance that could yield 50% more chips by 2030

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Post by Hikikomori »

eddyg wrote: post #17
et1337 wrote: post #3

This video is a really cool dive into EUV for the uninitiated (me) https://youtu.be/MiUHjLxm3V0?si=kEPSicC2WXYhcQ6L

Or this video, which came out before Veritasium's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2482h_TNwg

https://youtu.be/NGFhc8R_uO4

Or this presentation which came out way long ago.

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