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Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by joe_mamba »

alt227 wrote: post #10

I assume this is a symptom of the wider ai hardware issue. This is starting to feel a bit like universal paperclips to me, and we are on the verge of the next stage of industrialisation multiplication. I guess its either quantum computing or the hypnodrones which will get us out of this mess one way or another...

AI bubble won't last forever when a lot of compute is burned at a loss just so people can generate AI videos of sharks driving cars for social media shorts. It will burst at some point, at which HW manufacturing will have to lower prices if they still want to have enough sales to stay in business, since most of their current sales boom comes from HW they haven't even made yet.

OpenAI can't keep losing investor money forever with nothing to show for, at some point the first domino will fall, then the rest of the industry will go too from investor panic.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by piva00 »

dayson wrote: post #4

with no explanation of why?

Knock-down effects from the RAM shortage, starting to see CPUs shortage (lead times for Intel at 6 months for server-class CPUs, AMD also notified enterprise customers about a crunch), GPUs shortage, storage prices are increasing a lot as well.

Everything is much more expensive on the hardware-side at this moment, I think we will see these price increases across any provider that requires hardware, I'm just waiting until Backblaze notifies they will also need to increase pricing due to this.

AI is sucking money from everything, not only financial markets, it includes all of us consumers of anything that requires hardware to run on.

Hopefully this craze dies down in the next 1-2 years because it will be untenable to be paying 2-3x prices for the same technology we had for quite cheap just a year ago...

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by bilekas »

I understand the Ai slop casing hardware supply issues and so naturally you'll see an increase in price, but this one is confusing :

> Note: All "Server Auction" servers have a 3% price increase across the board.

Why would that warrant an increase if the HW is already there ?

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by latch »

bilekas wrote: post #17

I understand the Ai slop casing hardware supply issues and so naturally you'll see an increase in price, but this one is confusing : > Note: All "Server Auction" servers have a 3% price increase across the board. Why would that warrant an increase if the HW is already there ?

Maybe because they still have to pay for part replacements?

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by echelon »

joe_mamba wrote: post #12
alt227 wrote: post #10

I assume this is a symptom of the wider ai hardware issue. This is starting to feel a bit like universal paperclips to me, and we are on the verge of the next stage of industrialisation multiplication. I guess its either quantum computing or the hypnodrones which will get us out of this mess one way or another...

AI bubble won't last forever when a lot of compute is burned at a loss just so people can generate AI videos of sharks driving cars for social media shorts. It will burst at some point, at which HW manufacturing will have to lower prices if they still want to have enough sales to stay in business, since most of their current sales boom comes from HW they haven't even made yet. OpenAI can't keep losing investor money…

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff.

Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing the code and planning the architecture - I am not dialing this in.

Video editors using video models can replace entire studio production departments. Writer-directors who know how to direct are essentially now Hollywood studios in their own right. I know a lot about this in particular because I've been making films as a hobby for 15+ years and work with a lot of industry professionals.

You'll see a lot of slop, but that's the same thing we got when we gave the masses cell phones with cameras attached to them. We still have plenty of amazing photographers in the world, and the means of creation are only getting cheaper/easier and the scope of creation for any individual is growing and growing and growing.

This is the next industrial revolution.

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