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The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by retired »

sandworm101 wrote: post #8

Search youtube for laserface and gareth emery. The sea of phones are all recording the stage. So they are the same color as the show. They turn the otherewise dark audience into a reflection, adding to the effect. This is not a bad thing. As for dancing, dancing is for clubs. Clubs are not concert halls. You dance at a club. You watch a show at a hall. Only DJ-types who are confused about whether they are record-spin…

Perhaps they could have communicated beforehand that the performance would be available for free on YouTube afterwards, so that people don’t need to record.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by expedition32 »

mellosouls wrote: post #5

A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago: Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events. Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see. Note: this isn'…

I grew up in the 90s and we already had XTC. (Funny story about that it was invented by an actual chemist student like a real life "Breaking Bad")

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by thinkingemote »

The phone is a kind of shield for the person holding it above their head. It safely removes them from having to fully engage with what's in front of them.

The camera both removes the person from the scene and also by recording enables the event to be captured in a format to be reviewed again. The videos are never actually intended to be watched again or shared with friends though but they are proof that the person was physically there (if not wholly present).

There was a video I recently saw about how birthday parties should be filmed. Instead of a video of just the birthday girl in front of a cake reacting to her friends singing happy birthday, she takes the camera, flips it so we don't see her anymore but we see her friends singing facing her with faces full of love.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by whackernews »

mellosouls wrote: post #5

A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago: Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events. Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see. Note: this isn'…

Just regarding the drugs: I can totally understand when people are anti-drugs. I’d say it still depends on someone’s personality though. I’ve always thought that drugs and alcohol don’t really change your personality they just amplify it. If someone’s not really a dancer and maybe a bit anxious (seemingly every kid these days) they end up taking a load of drugs to compensate but just end up vegetated. If you’re already someone who feels the music and feels free enough to dance then honestly taking some drugs can be quite the experience.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by moritzwarhier »

sandworm101 wrote: post #8

Search youtube for laserface and gareth emery. The sea of phones are all recording the stage. So they are the same color as the show. They turn the otherewise dark audience into a reflection, adding to the effect. This is not a bad thing. As for dancing, dancing is for clubs. Clubs are not concert halls. You dance at a club. You watch a show at a hall. Only DJ-types who are confused about whether they are record-spin…

I'm mostly too old to go to clubs, but to me techno and other electronic music is not about stages or visual effects, quite the opposite. Well OK, VFX can be cool.

But getting lost in music, in a darkened room with some intentionally disorienting VFX; or simply none, loud electronic music in a room with many people is already quite an experience...

that's quite different from being at a festival or at a show like this, which looks more like a musical opera performance to me.

For big room EDM, was there ever a time when it was not about laser shows etc?

I mean there's nothing wrong with stage shows, pop music and lasers.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by [deleted] »

retired wrote: post #11
sandworm101 wrote: post #8

Search youtube for laserface and gareth emery. The sea of phones are all recording the stage. So they are the same color as the show. They turn the otherewise dark audience into a reflection, adding to the effect. This is not a bad thing. As for dancing, dancing is for clubs. Clubs are not concert halls. You dance at a club. You watch a show at a hall. Only DJ-types who are confused about whether they are record-spin…

Perhaps they could have communicated beforehand that the performance would be available for free on YouTube afterwards, so that people don’t need to record.

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Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by GuestFAUniverse »

jbaiter wrote: post #10
rumori wrote: post #3

Berghain puts stickers on your phone cameras, it’s pretty non intrusive while substantially improving the party experience. I didn’t see a single phone in the air on the dancefloor. It was quite refreshing, felt like partying in the 2000s.

It's pretty much the norm in all "proper" German techno/electronic music clubs I've been to, Berlin and elsewhere.

Cool. Now do that at the entrance to swimming pools too.

Has become a pest. Even inside. Even directly at or in the water. No matter what the signs say.

At least regarding that I miss the last millennium: no omnipresence of cameras. Not a bunch of entitled pseudo-influencers filming everything and everyone.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by retired »

phrotoma wrote: post #7
rumori wrote: post #3

Berghain puts stickers on your phone cameras, it’s pretty non intrusive while substantially improving the party experience. I didn’t see a single phone in the air on the dancefloor. It was quite refreshing, felt like partying in the 2000s.

I went to a show at Fabric in London during Kubecon last spring and they did the same thing. I still saw the odd person who peeled it off taking selfies or pics of friends inside but that was definitely the exception.

Perhaps it can be enforced with a type of laser that doesn’t damage the human eye but completely obliterates a phone camera. As long as you keep the sticker on nothing happens to your phone.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by phrotoma »

mellosouls wrote: post #5

A non-paywalled discussion on the subject from a year ago: Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor (85 points, 91 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42352825 I've never understood the appeal of so-called "dance" events. Crowds of thousands like sardines swaying-at-best to the DJ being treated as a rockstar but without the talent and entertainment as far as I can see. Note: this isn'…

Sounds like you agree with TFA:

> “Nobody was asking for the screen to be bigger. Nobody was asking for more production, more lasers. Literally, the number one complaint every year was, ‘Hey, you guys are overselling these shows, we want more room to dance.’”

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