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No Skill. No Taste

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Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by ossa-ma »

Yes, a positive from this is those with authenticity and taste will shine. Self-expression will be a form of resistance and we'll see a lot less homogenisation across things like writing, ui/ux, animation, individual websites, blogs.

Who knows maybe the old, scattered, personable, decentralised internet will come back - things like MySpace, geocities, sites like this (a lost art): https://www.cameronsworld.net/

Also taste comes from your ability to steer a model instead of having it steer you. e.g. a model suggests a basic pill button, you push back and curse it for its blandness and use it to design something new and novel.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by mlapeter »

Not sure if you'd consider this a counterpoint or just proving your point, but in the sea of AI slop there's also a real chance for people to create things that they couldn't before - my 7 year old is now able to nerd out and create games using claude even though he's just barely learned to read: https://www.kidhubb.com/play/meteor-dodge-solarscout64

It's not the prettiest but he's able to iterate on it and basically build whatever he can imagine just using claude on his ipad with voice transcription.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

#13

Post by raincole »

roywiggins wrote: post #7
embedding-shape wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You see this with visual artists who got way too into image generation, and because they have to spin the wheel a thousand times to get one good output, they have totally habituated themselves to a lower standard by the time they emerge from the AI mines clutching their one good output Is this actually true? I know of no artists nor programmers who used to have strict requirements, careful eyes and "good taste" who…

Darren Aronofsky https://www.decodingeverything.com/darren-aronofsky-ai-slop-... (Also, this website when Show HNs with slop READMEs get to the front page and nobody seems to notice that it's written in grating Claudese.)

> READMEs get to the front page and nobody seems to notice that it's written in grating Claudese

Or you know, it's just not that important whether the README is written by Claude or not.

Generally speaking people don't use a service/library for the author's ability to write excellent proses.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by BoredPositron »

altmanaltman wrote: post #9

Kind of meaningless if you let "taste" be a vaguely-defined term. Like, what do you mean by "taste"? How is it a differentiator? Does Apple have taste? Is the reason one open source app is better than the other because the devs of the first one have more "taste"? Seems like a philosophical article, but rather than exploring it deeply, it kind of just abandons it at the "hey man, everyone can create apps, so you bette…

Taste is not something you can define as factotum it changes over time, over location and culture.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by [deleted] »

roywiggins wrote: post #7
embedding-shape wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You see this with visual artists who got way too into image generation, and because they have to spin the wheel a thousand times to get one good output, they have totally habituated themselves to a lower standard by the time they emerge from the AI mines clutching their one good output Is this actually true? I know of no artists nor programmers who used to have strict requirements, careful eyes and "good taste" who…

Darren Aronofsky https://www.decodingeverything.com/darren-aronofsky-ai-slop-... (Also, this website when Show HNs with slop READMEs get to the front page and nobody seems to notice that it's written in grating Claudese.)

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Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by ForHackernews »

mlapeter wrote: post #12

Not sure if you'd consider this a counterpoint or just proving your point, but in the sea of AI slop there's also a real chance for people to create things that they couldn't before - my 7 year old is now able to nerd out and create games using claude even though he's just barely learned to read: https://www.kidhubb.com/play/meteor-dodge-solarscout64 It's not the prettiest but he's able to iterate on it and basically…

But will he learn to read?

Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

raincole wrote: post #13
roywiggins wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Darren Aronofsky https://www.decodingeverything.com/darren-aronofsky-ai-slop-... (Also, this website when Show HNs with slop READMEs get to the front page and nobody seems to notice that it's written in grating Claudese.)

> READMEs get to the front page and nobody seems to notice that it's written in grating Claudese Or you know, it's just not that important whether the README is written by Claude or not. Generally speaking people don't use a service/library for the author's ability to write excellent proses.

In this case the point is that they accompany the new flood of low-effort self-promoted shovelware vibecode projects.

Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by gtowey »

altmanaltman wrote: post #9

Kind of meaningless if you let "taste" be a vaguely-defined term. Like, what do you mean by "taste"? How is it a differentiator? Does Apple have taste? Is the reason one open source app is better than the other because the devs of the first one have more "taste"? Seems like a philosophical article, but rather than exploring it deeply, it kind of just abandons it at the "hey man, everyone can create apps, so you bette…

Ah yes, "if it doesn't make sense to me personally, it clearly can't exist"

Re: No Skill. No Taste

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Post by oytis »

mlapeter wrote: post #12

Not sure if you'd consider this a counterpoint or just proving your point, but in the sea of AI slop there's also a real chance for people to create things that they couldn't before - my 7 year old is now able to nerd out and create games using claude even though he's just barely learned to read: https://www.kidhubb.com/play/meteor-dodge-solarscout64 It's not the prettiest but he's able to iterate on it and basically…

But... why? How is prompting an LLM "nerding out"? Before it was "it's not the prettiest, but the kid did it himself", which is cool and educational and just cute. Now it's "it's not the prettiest, and also the kid didn't really do it". Why? Just what for?
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